Hindsight Ohio Game

I imagine those Evansville players would have loved to only have a virus. Why you posted something so idiotic like this as an analogy makes me think you need to go get a refund from where you got your degree.
The post had nothing to do with Evansville players. I’m sorry you had difficulty grasping that…blatantly obvious point.
 
Again, just my opinion, but a large scale outbreak of norovirus amongst a college football team, such as is being suggested here, would be investigated by public health officials and even if not, would definitely be newsworthy. It's been several weeks and there's been nothing on the story.

Yeah, this is just false. Where I was, there were 100+ cases before public health became involved. And it was at a place where travelers from all over the world would cross paths. Interesting side note: the majority of the doctors involved were 4th year med students from Kansas.
 
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Yeah, this is just false. Where I was, there were 100+ cases before public health became involved. And it was at a place where travelers from all over the world would cross paths. Interesting side note: the majority of the doctors involved were 4th year med students from Kansas.
From CDC Website
Definition of Norovirus Outbreak
A norovirus outbreak is defined as an occurrence of two or more similar illnesses resulting from a common exposure that is either suspected or laboratory-confirmed to be caused by norovirus.

There is much information on the CDC and IDPH websites on topic.
 
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I still ascribe a relatively small role to sickness. The problems in the Ohio game were the exact same ones we saw one week prior against Iowa. The details may have varied but the broad strokes were the same, costly picks put ISU behind. Anemic offense due to lack of ability to run and loads of short passes. Offense finally shows signs of life late once desperation mode hits but ultimately fails to convert on potential game tying/winning drives at the end of the game.
 
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If this team is one win from bowl eligibility I think the NCAA should grant them eligibility for even playing the Ohio game. Overcoming the sickness to even be on the field is apparently the biggest win of the season.
 
If this team is one win from bowl eligibility I think the NCAA should grant them eligibility for even playing the Ohio game. Overcoming the sickness to even be on the field is apparently the biggest win of the season.

If ISU were to beat Ohio, but lose to Baylor or Cincinatti, who are ranked around or below Ohio, to keep them out of the Nobody Remembers This Game Anyway Bowl, would you think it would be the worst failure of the CMC era?


What are specific suggestions you had for that day, with Noel being out and ISU not having much depth at WR or OL? Does a season/team define themselves by early or later situations?
 
If ISU were to beat Ohio, but lose to Baylor or Cincinatti, who are ranked around or below Ohio, to keep them out of the Nobody Remembers This Game Anyway Bowl, would you think it would be the worst failure of the CMC era?


What are specific suggestions you had for that day, with Noel being out and ISU not having much depth at WR or OL? Does a season/team define themselves by early or later situations?
For the record they showed Noel on the sidelines, standing, helmet fully strapped multiple times but he never played. I thought that was odd.

Like it or not, college football is defined by the nobody remembers this game anyway bowls. I too think it is stupid but it is reality. Continually missing bowl games will hurt a program more than anything in my opinion.

Nationally speaking a season is defined by end result and a bowl game at least gets you a mediocre to good result. Some bowl games even equal great result. No bowl game = bad.

I am also reminded that **** programs care about 6 wins. But as an ISU fan, if 6 wins can be the floor, that is historic. ISU is not there yet and I look forward to the day when 6 wins is a given. As good as the CMC tenure has been, 6 wins is still far from a given each year. How can 6 wins become the floor? My thoughts is you should win the games you should and get a few you should not every now and again. At ISU that would be historic. I hope I am allowed to want historic success/improvement. A guy to the east has built an empire doing that.

One suggestion would have been do not attempt a field goal down 10 midway through the 4th quarter. Game was lost as soon as that kick was missed. With that in mind I am not paid millions to win football games. But even a dolt like me can see that is a game you need to/should win.

And no, losing to Baylor or Cincy would be better than Ohio. It sucks, but conference affiliation matters in the perceptive world that is college football. Among the national audience, losing to the Mac champion is still considered worse than losing to the the worst team in P5, err 4. Its why you schedule a mac team in the non con as opposed to Wake Forest, Pitt, vanderbilt, stanford, virginia? Buy games are meant to be bought.
 
For the record they showed Noel on the sidelines, standing, helmet fully strapped multiple times but he never played. I thought that was odd.

Like it or not, college football is defined by the nobody remembers this game anyway bowls. I too think it is stupid but it is reality. Continually missing bowl games will hurt a program more than anything in my opinion.

Nationally speaking a season is defined by end result and a bowl game at least gets you a mediocre to good result. Some bowl games even equal great result. No bowl game = bad.

I am also reminded that **** programs care about 6 wins. But as an ISU fan, if 6 wins can be the floor, that is historic. ISU is not there yet and I look forward to the day when 6 wins is a given. As good as the CMC tenure has been, 6 wins is still far from a given each year. How can 6 wins become the floor? My thoughts is you should win the games you should and get a few you should not every now and again. At ISU that would be historic. I hope I am allowed to want historic success/improvement. A guy to the east has built an empire doing that.

One suggestion would have been do not attempt a field goal down 10 midway through the 4th quarter. Game was lost as soon as that kick was missed. With that in mind I am not paid millions to win football games. But even a dolt like me can see that is a game you need to/should win.

And no, losing to Baylor or Cincy would be better than Ohio. It sucks, but conference affiliation matters in the perceptive world that is college football. Among the national audience, losing to the Mac champion is still considered worse than losing to the the worst team in P5, err 4. Its why you schedule a mac team in the non con as opposed to Wake Forest, Pitt, vanderbilt, stanford, virginia? Buy games are meant to be bought.

Noel didn't play because he was sick. Probably tried it and couldn't operate.

Was ISU favored at Ohio?
 
So not like 10 or something which isn't exactly a shocker of a result.
IIRC, the line opened with ISU as 5-6 point favorites? dont quote me on that, but i remember seeing it drop considerably the friday night/saturday morning before kick.
 
The more I see the season unfold, I think Ohio was a hell of a lot more about a bunch of guys being sick as dogs and probably in no shape to play.
We got beat by a good team that when they were not controlling the ball by a large margin, were intercepting two of our passes, at critical junctions in the game. Rocco looked very good passing and in gaining two short first down QB sneaks, but our O coordinator insisted on rushing the ball, which was obviously was a waste of downs. Had their been more emphasis on receiver route running/play calling, and with some help from our FG kicker, we would have likely won the game.
 
For the record they showed Noel on the sidelines, standing, helmet fully strapped multiple times but he never played. I thought that was odd.

Like it or not, college football is defined by the nobody remembers this game anyway bowls. I too think it is stupid but it is reality. Continually missing bowl games will hurt a program more than anything in my opinion.

Nationally speaking a season is defined by end result and a bowl game at least gets you a mediocre to good result. Some bowl games even equal great result. No bowl game = bad.

I am also reminded that **** programs care about 6 wins. But as an ISU fan, if 6 wins can be the floor, that is historic. ISU is not there yet and I look forward to the day when 6 wins is a given. As good as the CMC tenure has been, 6 wins is still far from a given each year. How can 6 wins become the floor? My thoughts is you should win the games you should and get a few you should not every now and again. At ISU that would be historic. I hope I am allowed to want historic success/improvement. A guy to the east has built an empire doing that.

One suggestion would have been do not attempt a field goal down 10 midway through the 4th quarter. Game was lost as soon as that kick was missed. With that in mind I am not paid millions to win football games. But even a dolt like me can see that is a game you need to/should win.

And no, losing to Baylor or Cincy would be better than Ohio. It sucks, but conference affiliation matters in the perceptive world that is college football. Among the national audience, losing to the Mac champion is still considered worse than losing to the the worst team in P5, err 4. Its why you schedule a mac team in the non con as opposed to Wake Forest, Pitt, vanderbilt, stanford, virginia? Buy games are meant to be bought.

I agree with a lot of this. And honestly, the five year stretch of bowl games was really good for a school like Iowa State. If we could sneak into one this year, I'd say that we were on our way to being a consistent bowl team.
 
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