Hindsight Ohio Game

[Billups06]

Serious question - Where are you reading this information about high player counts with norovirus? I haven’t seen that printed anywhere except CF. I did see one online article which suggested five players with food poisoning, but provided no details. Is this rumor or has it been substantiated?

I had a colleague on the sideline (who is close to the program) during the game. Colleague also witnessed the 'infamous fan' from the video yelling stuff at the players/staff essentially the whole game.

Blum elaborated on it during a Williams and Blum podcast (Sunday podcast) too.

 

[MustardTiger]

Serious question - Where are you reading this information about high player counts with norovirus? I haven’t seen that printed anywhere except CF. I did see one online article which suggested five players with food poisoning, but provided no details. Is this rumor or has it been substantiated?

I won't say what was said or who said it/confirmed it, but the premium boards had info about it.

 

[ICCYFAN]

I won't say what was said or who said it/confirmed it, but the premium boards had info about it.

I have no reason to doubt a couple players were ill - the Register said five or six. With a squad of 100+ players, I would expect several players to be sick every week.

Meanwhile, practically every thread on this board is suggesting we were beset by the plague - every position group affected, line too weak to block, players soiling themselves or hurling on the field, etc.

I’ve seen three names - Becht, Noel and Vaughn. That doesn’t cost us the game! Next man up - nobody knew who Kyle Kempt was when he stepped in and beat OU in Norman! If Becht was that sick, he shouldn’t have been on the field.

 

[KidSilverhair]

In hindsight, I wish I would have ran faster from the cops during VEISHEA.

David Irving! Is that you? Good to see you on CF! You probably could have ran faster if you weren’t carrying a stop sign, just sayin’.

 

[HFCS]

I think it is possible Iowa State figures out their stuff without the Ohio loss. In other words, in hind sight, I still wish we'd have won that game.

I don’t believe even sick players have to try and fail at the same play all game long without adjustment, the defense was able to call more than one play somehow. Sure it could have been a combination of a lot of things including illness but pinning it all on a virus is week and far fetched imho.

 

[CydeofFries]

If we somehow win that day, I think the staff calls that a bullet dodged and would have been business as usual for Ok State. At which point I think we get embarrassed there at home instead. And we would have ended up changing any way.

As bad as it looks, I think I'd rather have it play out the way it did than the alternative of home against OSU. Having that happen on the road feels less shameful than at home.

 

[madguy30]

I have no reason to doubt a couple players were ill - the Register said five or six. With a squad of 100+ players, I would expect several players to be sick every week.

Meanwhile, practically every thread on this board is suggesting we were beset by the plague - every position group affected, line too weak to block, players soiling themselves or hurling on the field, etc.

I’ve seen three names - Becht, Noel and Vaughn. That doesn’t cost us the game! Next man up - nobody knew who Kyle Kempt was when he stepped in and beat OU in Norman! If Becht was that sick, he shouldn’t have been on the field.

There's a lot to unpack here.

None of it is based on rational thought so probably not worth it but...

1st paragraph--there's sick, and then there's norovirus. Several players a week are not going to be sick, and they won't have norovirus. When that stuff spreads though, it's fast and can wipe someone out for a couple of days. It's awful.

2nd paragraph: nobody has come close to suggesting anything like this. There were major players sick, it affected how they played and was one more thing to overcome for a young team playing a very solid team on the road.

3rd: Kempt had an entire week to practice and nobody else was out or hindered by anything. Norovirus or food poisoning can take hold less than 24 hours after ingestion. That's a little different to plan or prep for and there's a good chance the 'next men up' were affected.

ISU wasn't the first team to lose to a MAC team and won't be the last. The team moved on and is playing some good ball the last two weeks and record wise is probably about as good as fans could have hoped for if they lived in reality (many have chosen not to).

 

[JM4CY]

David Irving! Is that you? Good to see you on CF! You probably could have ran faster if you weren’t carrying a stop sign, just sayin’.

I had twice the talent Irving ever did.

 

[dosry5]

I won't say what was said or who said it/confirmed it, but the premium boards had info about it.

Puking is premium board info now?

 

[werdnamanhill]

Puking is premium board info now?

Yup, and not just who, where, and when. You also get color, consistency, and splatter patterns on the premium board.

 

[dirtyninety]

The best, most-dominant, will-enforcing team ever of any Iowa State team ( and of any team in it's sport for a near two-year window) history lost to Drake early in year.

 

[BryceC]

I think it is possible Iowa State figures out their stuff without the Ohio loss. In other words, in hind sight, I still wish we'd have won that game.

It’s possible we are in the same spot but I wouldn’t trade where we are at. We were borderline unwatchable. This team is fun.

 

[stateofmind]

So fun to read internet tough guy posts. Especially the ones who never played football above the high school level. Just play through it... Ever wonder how the coaches avoided the plague? They didn't. Imagine calling plays and motivating others while puking or shitting.

Stop projecting your insecurities on these young men because you are embarrassed what they did in a game.

 

[madguy30]

So fun to read internet tough guy posts. Especially the ones who never played football above the high school level. Just play through it... Ever wonder how the coaches avoided the plague? They didn't. Imagine calling plays and motivating others while puking or shitting.

Stop projecting your insecurities on these young men because you are embarrassed what they did in a game.

Even high school football is hard to play in normal conditions and a season/team can take time to come along.

And pretty much anything is harder to do when sick.

I don't know if people have played too much Madden and think real life humans are the same thing but just expecting things to happen is odd imo.

 

[TheHelgo]

As pissed as anyone at the time, but starting to think its was a plus and would a turn around happen if not for that day. Think it set the tone for the rest of the season.

Probably right, but it seems like we have to point to an early loss as a motivator every year. Even the fiesta bowl year was marred by the Rajun Cajun loss. I just wish we could comfortably take care of the games that are penciled in as 'wins' in the non-conference every year.

 

[jsb]

Probably right, but it seems like we have to point to an early loss as a motivator every year. Even the fiesta bowl year was marred by the Rajun Cajun loss. I just wish we could comfortably take care of the games that are penciled in as 'wins' in the non-conference every year.

Sure. But I’d say most teams have a stupid loss each year. Very few teams go through the season without them. It’s important to note that it isn’t some special Iowa State thing.

 

[TheHelgo]

Sure. But I’d say most teams have a stupid loss each year. Very few teams go through the season without them. It’s important to note that it isn’t some special Iowa State thing

Agreed, but how often is it the same teams every year? Yeah, teams will have dumb losses, but it seems to me that we always have that dumb loss, whereas most teams will have that random loss once every several years.

Not trying to argue about this, and I certainly see where you are coming from. I just feel like we are either having a terrible loss, or at least nail-biting out a squeaker every year against teams we should throttle.

 

[Cyinthenorth]

It’s possible we are in the same spot but I wouldn’t trade where we are at. We were borderline unwatchable. This team is fun.

You are right. The how we got to 4-3 is a bit different than how I would have guessed preseason, but nevertheless, if you would have offered me 4-3 after 7 weeks of football, I would have pretty happy with that.

 

[Cyinthenorth]

Sure. But I’d say most teams have a stupid loss each year. Very few teams go through the season without them. It’s important to note that it isn’t some special Iowa State thing.

This is true. We tend to only look inward and only care about Iowa State as fans of the school and program, but if you look around the sport, there are whacky things happening to almost everyone. The only teams that escape unscathed are your Alabama's, Georgia's, and Ohio State's of the world. Otherwise, maybe a random team gets a nice string of good luck and make sit an entire season without a head scratcher like TCU last season, but there are schools like Miami (FL) and Notre Dame that can't get out of their own way at least once in any given season.

 

[stateofmind]

Even high school football is hard to play in normal conditions and a season/team can take time to come along.

And pretty much anything is harder to do when sick.

I don't know if people have played too much Madden and think real life humans are the same thing but just expecting things to happen is odd imo.

I played through high school and thought I could walk on for Walden back in the day. I played rugby trying to get in shape and realized I had no business playing at ISU. I was 6'3" 250 pounds, but not very fast. I feel I can put up with a lot of pain and discomfort. (I ran a marathon at 275 pounds.) But there is no chance I could play football effectively, if at all, if I had the norovirus.