Teams
Forum List
Toggle sidebar

Iowa Beat Writers

There is an old saying in golf that comes to mind with Cade/Brian. "It's the Indian, not the arrow". You can change equipment (QB) as often as you like, it doesn't change the fact that the same person is utilizing the equipment (OC).
 
BCClone said:
Pulled up passer efficiency, and guess who is 116 of 124? Somehow 6 teams don’t even have a QB listed. Must be the service academies who run option.
Click to expand...
Bowman for Okie St is 122, yikes!!!

Robertson for Baylor is 119, hope he still sucks when ISU plays them Oct 28th.
 
nrg4isu said:
I apologize if I'm derailing the thread, but the quote was "development can take place after college with someone like Purdy" in comparison to Cade. I guess I'm rejecting it out of hand.

Purdy is Purdy and that didn't change from college to pro. Some minor tweaks here and there, but it's not like he was drafted as a project (not developed in college) that has now become this pro machine. Purdy was drafted last because of his measurables - height, arm strength, etc. They're just not what NFL would like. On the plus side, he was drafted (at all) because he had experience, accuracy, good decision making and just has that gamer/it factor.

Cade would be drafted (if he's drafted at all) because he has measurables and good decision making. Iowa can't really take that away from him. They're not doing him any favors at all though.

I guess I'm saying that if you're making the argument that Purdy is a good example of development post-college, that's a really bad example. Honestly, it's a take that I'd expect for some national talking-head that never watched Purdy in college.

I'm trying to think of a college QB that was a project that turned out well and I'm coming up empty - probably because I don't follow the NFL all that much. I'd guess that other positions have more success at project players.
Click to expand...
Purdy is a text book case of experience of playing in the position over a number of years can out weigh the measurables like size and arm strength. Lance had all the measurables in the world, but he only started one year, and looked lost when he was on the field.

Purdy is just the opposite, his time at ISU allowed him to see everything that a defense could throw at him, and he was smart enough to have used that experience to grow into the position. The 49ers just took that experience and sharpened it, which has allowed him to play at a high level.

Look at all the QBs that have flamed out that only started for a year or so in college, most have flamed out or struggled with the faster speed of the NFL, even though they were stars in college. Joe Barrows seems to be an outlier, the guy that only started one year, was great and continued to play at that level in the NFL.
 
  • Like
  • Agree
Reactions: CycloneVet, SolarGarlic, Statefan10 and 3 others
CyPunch said:
Cade McNamara is throwing for 114 yards per game which maths out to him getting paid $436 per passing yard.

Cade has completed 14 passes to WRs this year. That is $14,286 per WR completion.

Pretty good ROI if you ask me.
Click to expand...
No one knows how much Cade got paid except hopefully the IRS. I know Swarm probably didn't pay him close to anything to what has been reported, but I'm sure he has made a lot from other avenues as well. Guess we will never know the true figures of these things.
 
nrg4isu said:
I apologize if I'm derailing the thread, but the quote was "development can take place after college with someone like Purdy" in comparison to Cade. I guess I'm rejecting it out of hand.

Purdy is Purdy and that didn't change from college to pro. Some minor tweaks here and there, but it's not like he was drafted as a project (not developed in college) that has now become this pro machine. Purdy was drafted last because of his measurables - height, arm strength, etc. They're just not what NFL would like. On the plus side, he was drafted (at all) because he had experience, accuracy, good decision making and just has that gamer/it factor.

Cade would be drafted (if he's drafted at all) because he has measurables and good decision making. Iowa can't really take that away from him. They're not doing him any favors at all though.

I guess I'm saying that if you're making the argument that Purdy is a good example of development post-college, that's a really bad example. Honestly, it's a take that I'd expect for some national talking-head that never watched Purdy in college.

I'm trying to think of a college QB that was a project that turned out well and I'm coming up empty - probably because I don't follow the NFL all that much. I'd guess that other positions have more success at project players.
Click to expand...
Literally the same height and maybe a little lighter than Brock.
 
  • Informative
Reactions: nrg4isu
iahawks said:
No one knows how much Cade got paid except hopefully the IRS. I know Swarm probably didn't pay him close to anything to what has been reported, but I'm sure he has made a lot from other avenues as well. Guess we will never know the true figures of these things.
Click to expand...
Whatever he got paid was to much.
 
  • Funny
Reactions: NWICY
nrg4isu said:
I apologize if I'm derailing the thread, but the quote was "development can take place after college with someone like Purdy" in comparison to Cade. I guess I'm rejecting it out of hand.

Purdy is Purdy and that didn't change from college to pro. Some minor tweaks here and there, but it's not like he was drafted as a project (not developed in college) that has now become this pro machine. Purdy was drafted last because of his measurables - height, arm strength, etc. They're just not what NFL would like. On the plus side, he was drafted (at all) because he had experience, accuracy, good decision making and just has that gamer/it factor.

Cade would be drafted (if he's drafted at all) because he has measurables and good decision making. Iowa can't really take that away from him. They're not doing him any favors at all though.

I guess I'm saying that if you're making the argument that Purdy is a good example of development post-college, that's a really bad example. Honestly, it's a take that I'd expect for some national talking-head that never watched Purdy in college.

I'm trying to think of a college QB that was a project that turned out well and I'm coming up empty - probably because I don't follow the NFL all that much. I'd guess that other positions have more success at project players.
Click to expand...

I'm not saying Cade will be good in the NFL. I'm saying what someone does in college doesn't necessarily always translate to how the pro career goes.

This happened after Purdy's college career so I guess it would count in post-college development, correct? Improving MPH isn't just some small tweak. I'd also say Purdy seems to be better about making the simple play with SF.

www.ninersnation.com

How Brock Purdy’s work with his throwing coach, Will Hewlett, transformed his game

Brock Purdy’s throwing coach, Will Hewlett, sits down with Niners Nation to break down his offseason work with the 49ers’ quarterback.
www.ninersnation.com www.ninersnation.com

There were plenty of times at ISU where he would throw downfield to something that wasn't there when the checkdown at least gets a first down.

Seeing as how coachable he is, it's a little surprising it didn't take hold at ISU.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1776
Can't put too much blame on Cade because he's in a horrible situation, but I refuse to believe there was any way he was getting "recruited" by Alabama last year when he put his name into the portal.
 
Cyrocks said:
I think you are wrong about Purdy's development after Iowa State.

It is not a knock on Iowa State when saying Purdy received additional coaching after Iowa State -- which is a fact -- and he was receptive to it and learned from it.
Click to expand...
And he had more time to dedicate to his craft. I don't understand why people don't realize this (not you per se), but college kids have other stuff going on, when pros, well, playing football is what they do for a living. Pros have more time to work on things like mechanics because it is literally their job.
 
  • Winner
Reactions: Cyrocks
Statefan10 said:
Oh yeah, he was a tool at Michigan so I'm not surprised he's carried that over at Iowa.
Click to expand...
He should stick to making ejaculatory jokes, he is much better at that than he is at quarterbacking.

He reminds me of the full embodiment of what I was concerned we were getting into with Dekkers, if I'm being honest.
 
  • Agree
Reactions: NickTheGreat and Statefan10
madguy30 said:
I'm not saying Cade will be good in the NFL. I'm saying what someone does in college doesn't necessarily always translate to how the pro career goes.

This happened after Purdy's college career so I guess it would count in post-college development, correct? Improving MPH isn't just some small tweak. I'd also say Purdy seems to be better about making the simple play with SF.

www.ninersnation.com

How Brock Purdy’s work with his throwing coach, Will Hewlett, transformed his game

Brock Purdy’s throwing coach, Will Hewlett, sits down with Niners Nation to break down his offseason work with the 49ers’ quarterback.
www.ninersnation.com www.ninersnation.com

There were plenty of times at ISU where he would throw downfield to something that wasn't there when the checkdown at least gets a first down.

Seeing as how coachable he is, it's a little surprising it didn't take hold at ISU.
Click to expand...
I am thinking Brock was a bit over-coached at Iowa State. Maybe even micro-managed to a fault. Note that the old QB coach when he was here is no longer here, as well as the OC. They were trying to square peg round hole him after his sensational freshman breakout campaign.

All that said, the game reps certainly helped prepare and present him for the NFL and I certainly don't think he was 'ruined' by the staff at all, or he wouldn't be playing at all anymore. He was certainly put in a box and held back to a degree, but all in all had a great career at Iowa State and was under center for some of the best seasons in school history.
 
  • Like
Reactions: NWICY
iahawks said:
No one knows how much Cade got paid except hopefully the IRS. I know Swarm probably didn't pay him close to anything to what has been reported, but I'm sure he has made a lot from other avenues as well. Guess we will never know the true figures of these things.
Click to expand...

You start out saying "no one knows" how much he got paid, then say you "know" Swarm "probably" didn't pay him close to what's been reported?

If no one knows, then they just might have paid him exactly what's been reported, yeah?
 
Tailg8er said:
You start out saying "no one knows" how much he got paid, then say you "know" Swarm "probably" didn't pay him close to what's been reported?

If no one knows, then they just might have paid him exactly what's been reported, yeah?
Click to expand...
Just going off of what the Swarm guy said about how much they pay players is all. If he is telling the truth and I have no idea if he is, then it is way below what is being reported. But again, that doesn't include money that can be made outside of Swarm either. Point being, no one will ever really know except Cade and maybe the IRS.
 
  • Disagree
Reactions: CyPunch
You must log in or register to reply here.

Help Support Us

Become a patron
Top Bottom
Back