Who is the best coach in ISU history?
I admit it’s hard to pick one of anything, so who is the mt Rushmore of cyclone football coaches?
Asking again: Has the rot started to set in?
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I admit it’s hard to pick one of anything, so who is the mt Rushmore of cyclone football coaches?
You are right, unfortunately. CF has more and more become a cesspool in many threads.
Should read “there is an unbelievable amount of dumb on this site”
It’s what fan sites are for
And the KEY question is: did their replacements fare any better? For that matter, how many replacements have done better vs done worse? I think people underestimate the difficulty of hiring even a mediocre coach. CMC has taken a flailing program to the point where every team takes them seriously now. So, this "I want it now" and "I want it all the time" thinking, IMO, is destined for failure.
Barry Switzer would openly criticize the poor state of ISU FB facilities in the press. Fun times under Gordo.
The OP vanity posted this thread after he'd posted a similar one the week before. So I have no problem with people trolling them in here after a win. But yeah, the people who stay bitter and try to post through it after the wins are dumb.
He wasn't wrong.
JP single handedly transformed ISU athletics to make it competitive across the board. Smith, VDV were only working around the edges by comparison. I don't know what the future holds in terms of media financing of the program, but the past fifteen plus years has been managed about as well as it could have been.
I would love it if we get at least 6 wins this year.
The players and fans deserve it.
Sadly, Campbell doesn't really get going until conference season starts, so we already missed two of the easiest opportunities.
Beating undermanned conference foes, losing to Spencer Rattler, and beating a 4 and 3 Oregon team? With alll sorts of high level NFL talent? Wow! Much win!
Pop Warner, Johnny Majors, Earl Bruce, Dan McCarney, and Matt Campbell.
Danny Mac made all of his hay on a weak a$$ schedule and thats not even up for debate. Outside of the Iowa game he got blown out in every single big game Iowa State played in.
TBF, OP was positive after the win on here, and it might be done in a style that feels like trolling, but I think this thread raised an interesting discussion.
It seems crazy to many that Campbell would be on the hot seat. Yet there were absolutely times when it would've seemed absurd that McCarney and Rhoads would've been forced out. Is this a bump in the road and Campbell course-corrects, or is this the early stages of what ultimately McCarney and Rhoads faced after periods of positivity and success at different levels?
And sometimes schools have really good coaches, the best or one of the best the school has had and it runs its course and it's time to move on. It happens. For the record, I think Campbell has done the best job at ISU that any coach has done. Fans get too biased for eras or specific coaches. I look to what people outside the program think and look at accolades. People outside of ISU thought Campbell did the best job in the league multiple times.
I believe in this staff and I think they might be able to correct, salvage this year and have a nice year next year. But my confidence is a lot less than it was a couple years ago.
And if we didn't count our D's and F's, we'd all be on the honor roll, right?
Majors finished with a losing record his last year before leaving for Pitt. That team had the highest NFL Draft Pick ever from Iowa State.
Neither Majors nor Bruce won Conference Coach of the Year while at Iowa State. Both achieved their greatest success after leaving Iowa State. Campbell has been Big 12 Coach of the Year 3 times while at Iowa State.
His success has been held back by those in charge of the offense and ST.
Just imagine if we had the coaching to be good on ST and slightly better on offense- we would have won a majority of those close losses.
Apples to oranges.
Would Matt Campbell have been able to field a team that could beat Tom Osborne and Barry Switzer back when there were no scholarship limits and the only schools "allowed" to pay players were the Nebraska's and Oklahoma's?
With his recent statements on how hard it is to win at ISU, and that winning the conference isn't the goal.......I have my doubts. You would never hear either of coaches say that. They had the LE attitude of "why not here".
I think early in his tenure at ISU Matt had a little of that himself. Something has changed. Hopefully he can get that mojo back because trying to be Kirk Ferentz isn't a good look.