ISU Gambling Megathread
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I mean, that's true.
He didn't conceal his identity and he's of age. He's not in trouble legally at all, it's the NCAA he has to worry about.
That's the part I don't think people are understanding here.
It's like if weed is legal somewhere but it can still be against the league's substance policy.
“Dekkers stepped away from the program”…translation…ISU and CMC kicked his a** to the curb.
Those charged would not be guilty of tampering having the privilege to utilize the names of the people listed as having the account under the plain language of the statute.
That's just, like, your opinion, man.
You know, a lotta ins, a lotta outs, lotta what-have-yous.
I paid 4 years of tuition does that count as FB support ? Who is Brent Blum was he that nihilist actor in Big Lebowski ? Dude just relax. we don’t agree on the season. I’m hoping for 10 wins but just feel 2-3 is more likely. It sucks but I’m a realist. And a pacifist …
This section mainly deals with falsifying and attempting to deceive. They didn’t want the NCAA, the sports book, or Iowa State to find out, so they established an account by deception, that is what the DCI investigator alleged. That‘s why it isn’t a simple misdemeanor, because the code ups the penalty to an aggravated.
It would be interesting for DCI to discuss their enforcement process regarding student-athletes and underage individuals in general. But my guess is they want to be secretive about their enforcement procedures to keep a step ahead of law breakersOf course he doesn't.
I think we'd all agree that there were non-athletes engaged in sports betting on campus and that some of them were under the legal age to do so.
We don't know how many of those were detected by the sports books programs and reported to the DCI. We don't know if the programs designed to detect illegal gambling are keyed differently on athletes and non athletes, though that is likely a safe assumption.
We don't know what the DCI did, if anything, about investigating any of those reports.
We don't know if others were in fact charged or not for various applicable offenses.
There's a lot we don't know, but it is more fun to assume whatever one wants to assume and to make bold statements accordingly. This is the sports board way!
But student athletes might agree as part of their scholarship or team membership to provide personal identification information to ISU. ISU then submits PII to sports books to assist their audits.
Who knows, sports betting is rather new and maybe student-athlete audits were not a priority until the issue with Iowa baseball arose.
So to complain that non-athletes weren't investigated. They might not be a targeted audit because that compliance process is built into everyone signing up for the App.
The DCI has no enforcement process for the millionth time.
The book's software detected suspicious activity. The book is required to turn that over to the DCI per their license. The DCI turned their findings, provided mostly by the book, to the county attorneys that pressed the charges.
The book isn't auditing anything. They've got software that does it in real time.
I don't believe the software detected suspicious activity in real time. Otherwise, the DCI and county attorneys delayed enforcement of the 2021 activity and waited for others to be implicated.
If, in fact, the 2021 activity was detected in real time, the casinos failed to prevent further inappropriate activity and should face major fines. If the DCI was made aware in 2021 and delayed prosecution, there is a stronger case for calling it a sting operation.
Personally, I don't care if it was a "sting" operation, if this was result of an audit, if this was a result of normal procedures, etc.
Bottom line is a handful of players decided to place bets on sporting events, with some involving Iowa State athletics and some even involving Iowa State football, and some betting while underage under false names. That is 100% inexcusable. They deserve whatever punishment is coming to them. They are not the victims.
Get the guillotine to central campus asap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Or just kicked off the team.
Does anyone else recall the initial reports of the investigation? For some reason, I have seem to remember there was a report of an non-athlete associated with the U of I athletic department placing a bet at a casino. A casino employee recognized the bettor.
Does any of this sound familiar?
My assumption is the bet was on sports, and the casino employee knew the bet should have been rejected but was not. The employee reported the incident to the casino's compliance. The investigation of this single incident prompted the sweep of records. This sweep turned up the other incidents after the fact and not real time. Just my theory.
Does any of this sound familiar?
My assumption is the bet was on sports, and the casino employee knew the bet should have been rejected but was not. The employee reported the incident to the casino's compliance. The investigation of this single incident prompted the sweep of records. This sweep turned up the other incidents after the fact and not real time. Just my theory.
NCAA: If you do this thing, you can't play.
Player (s): does the thing.
NCAA: You can't play.
That's it. That's the story.
And your 'theory' is incorrect.
I'm done with this thread after this and everyone can keep spewing all the falsehoods they want to.
THE BOOK'S SOFTWARE DETECTED SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY. PERIOD.
No one is hand auditing anything and DCI isn't asking the books for records out of thin air. Just because it took 18 months for the DCI to turn everything over to the county attorneys doesn't mean anything. They're investigating literally hundreds of cases at any given time.
May 8, 2023
The University of Iowa and the Department of Athletics are aware of the sports wagering investigation and are fully cooperating. We have alerted the NCAA of the potential violations and we have hired outside counsel to assist in the investigative process.
The athletics department provides education on NCAA rules regarding the the prohibition of sports wagering as well as the potential consequences.
Additional Information
From this U of I release it appears the investigation did not target only student athletes
The University of Iowa and the Department of Athletics are aware of the sports wagering investigation and are fully cooperating. We have alerted the NCAA of the potential violations and we have hired outside counsel to assist in the investigative process.
The athletics department provides education on NCAA rules regarding the the prohibition of sports wagering as well as the potential consequences.
Additional Information
- The university has received information about 111 individuals.
- This includes 26 current student-athletes from baseball, football, men’s basketball, men’s track and field, and men's wrestling, as well as one full-time employee of the UI Department of Athletics.
- The vast majority of the individuals are student-staff, former student-athletes, or those with no connection to UI Athletics.
- The list does not include any current or former coaches.
From this U of I release it appears the investigation did not target only student athletes
SI article from May 9
“We’re monitoring this situation like everyone else,” Ohorilko says. “Our role is administrative, tasked with ensuring the integrity of the sports betting rules and regulations in those books. We hadn’t seen any indication of anything unusual related to that activity or wagering markets.”
Who is conducting the investigation?
There are two entities tasked with investigating betting within the state. One is the Iowa Racing and Gaming Commission. The other is the Iowa Division of Criminal Investigation (think of it as Iowa’s in-state version of the FBI). Brian Ohorilko, the Racing and Gaming Commission’s director, says it did not launch an investigation.“We’re monitoring this situation like everyone else,” Ohorilko says. “Our role is administrative, tasked with ensuring the integrity of the sports betting rules and regulations in those books. We hadn’t seen any indication of anything unusual related to that activity or wagering markets.”
