Hy-Vee didn't have a choice, they needed to pay for concerts and Pat Mahomes ridiculous contract.
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Hy-Vee didn't have a choice, they needed to pay for concerts and Pat Mahomes ridiculous contract.
did i read that this whole deal is only for people to go into the office THREE days a week? are we really b*itching about going into the office 3 days? lol
Personally I would take issue with the 30 mile thing.
I'd like to see how the retention goes with this; maybe some will find they like going in.
There are multiple things in play here.
- A lot of these people were hired as "Remote only". No where did it say "Remote only if you live 30.1 miles from 711 High st."
- For multiple years, Principal preached how open they were to WFH. For example, they made a huge shift in hiring IT staff from around the country. So if 100% WFH is bad, why did Principal hire these people? Are they going to fire these people since they can't do their job? The email actually said this doesn't impact anyone over 30.1 miles away and they are going to keep hiring.
- Every single person that got the email knows that the reason was because the CEO didn't like seeing empty space on the Des Moines campus.
- If you've worked for Principal over the last 3 years, you'd realize how this contradicts nearly everything they've said. One of the leaders of IT has been asked this type of question like 20 times a year and every time the answer has never been anything close to working 3 times a week in the office for those close to the campus.
Every one has had the ability to go in whenever they want. The problem was the people did it, didn't prefer it, and returned to WFH.
Actually, I would be. It was mentioned earlier that not all jobs are created equal. My job is to manage people and systems scattered across the country. Not one person Interact with is closer than 3 hours from me. The building that I would be required to come into three times a week has nothing to do with me and makes no sense for me to come in just to sit by myself. it would be different if my team was here I guess.
So for certain jobs, yes, 2-3 times isn't a big deal. For a job like mine, I would be going into the office to "check a corporate box" which would just piss me off, and I would look elsewhere.
its a tricky thing to navigate through so most companies just treat everyone the same to avoid legal issues. Policy is policy, etc.
That's what the company I work for has been doing for over a year now when we returned to the office after the pandemic. Most groups have either a 3 days a week requirement or a 50% office/WFH where they work 1 full week in the office and 1 full week at home. Many of these job roles pre-pandemic were 100% in office or maybe got 1 day WFH so IMO going from being in the office every day to half the time is a pretty fair trade off.
I've touched on this on other replies already but feels like the ones the most upset about coming into the office are the ones that probably aren't as productive when working from home. The call center jobs especially and I've spoken with many managers the past few years here that have had issues with employees manipulating things to avoid taking calls or have to handle complaints from clients and customers of how there was too much noise or distractions going on when they talked to an agent on the phone. When those types of job roles are in the office they don't have kids and televisions distracting them and have a controlled environment where they have to be at their desk and logged into the phone queues doing the job they were hired to do.
I do feel some of the return to office mandates are probably helping with attrition where companies looking to downsize staffing overhead and they would rather some leave on their own so they don't have to pay out as many severance packages if they need to lay off some staff to reduce staffing or role duplication. Those that really want to keep their jobs will comply and those looking for a reason to leave or change jobs will move on.
It's an employees' market right now. If the employee doesn't like it at all, just change jobs. There are quite a few openings out there from what I've seen.
80% of bosses say they regret earlier return-to-office plans: ‘A lot of executives have egg on their faces’
As some business leaders accept hybrid work as a permanent reality, others are backtracking on earlier pledges to let employees work from home.
www.cnbc.com
Off topic, but I knew a guy that was self-employed who insisted on taking one full week off per month. His theory was he was more productive in the week before and the week after he left that it all netted out. There is some truth to the idea that you're at your most efficient when you are trying to leave the office.
CycloneErik
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If you do some more research, you'll find this isn't the case. A lot of the "openings" actually aren't openings at all. Many of the actual openings are ones that companies and schools have no intention of filling, but just something to go through the motions with for one reason or another.
This paragraph didn't make sense to me.80% of bosses say they regret earlier return-to-office plans: ‘A lot of executives have egg on their faces’
As some business leaders accept hybrid work as a permanent reality, others are backtracking on earlier pledges to let employees work from home.
As of July, 59% of full-time employees are back to being 100% on-site, while 29% are in a hybrid arrangement and 12% are completely remote, according to new data from WFH Research. Offices are still only half full compared to their pre-pandemic occupancy.
Either we lost 25% of the work force, or the offices would be around 75%.
I disagreed because I know numerous companies in various industries that need people and aren't even getting any applications.
I guess I should have qualified it as I only know about the Ag and lending areas. Outside of the mountains of emails I get, I routinely get asked if I know anyone in those fields looking to change. It's what I deal with the most. I don't know about the other vocations.
CycloneErik
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And I know scores of people and companies in the exact scenario I described. I don't make this **** up.
The first set of numbers is based on a survey of how people are working. The office space statistics are based on a different survey about available office space. Two different surveys which show the variance in projectections when you have a small sample size.
either do I. I know one company who's been trying to hire Internal Audit employees for over 1.5 years and have only received 2 resumes in that time period.
Okay, thanks. The writing didn't make it clear that it was from different surveys, the part I posted sounded like the same survey.
I can tell you that it makes zero sense to have call center agents in the office. With the software we have in place, we have productivity systems in place that analyze every minute of their day whether they are in the office or at home. It may make sense to have them in the office during training but after that, there really should be a difference and they should actually have less distractions at home. The other interesting thing that I never thought I would say is that most of our call center reps have faster and more reliable internet at home. If they are having issues with network connectivity, we have software in place that will easily troubleshoot that as well.