Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

Think about what has actually transpired. Kliavkoff said they had options that would match B12. Clearly they do not. In fact, the only linear options must have completely disappeared. Why would you present a subscription-based offer that apparently lands in the $13.5M - $19.6M per year if there were linear options near that? He presented the BEST OFFER THEY HAVE!

How could any member want to stay?
And if it weren’t for Apple kicking in to pay off the Comcast fiasco, that $13.5M to $19.6M becomes $6M, about the same as AAC.
 
Wow. They have an enrollment of about 17,326 students in both undergraduate and graduate programs. That’s $86,575 per student per year.

Starting to understand why they haven’t been super vocal about needing to find a home if this PAC thing falls apart.

Yeah, Stanford will be fine.

That's why they're indifferent. They can 1000% afford almost whatever they want. They could even go FCS in football and it would pretty much have the same impact on the University financials as a rounding error.

It's much different than schools like WSU or OSU who's athletics related revenues I would imagine are a more crucial piece of the University landscape.
The endowment isn’t and won’t be used to support athletics.
 
The old CF software used to used to break down how many posts each poster in a thread has posted. I don't believe this version allows for that, other than yourself.

I'm curious who has the most posts in here, and not sure if we should buy them something or get them checked out.
 
Stanford may not care if they are in PAC or independent, but if they had a choice they would pick PAC. So Robbins might as well try to keep AZ in PAC so Stanford doesn't have to deal with realignment once he becomes the president.
Yeah, ND has an endowment of 17B for 13,000 students. Then they can be the well endowed independents!
 
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The old CF software used to used to break down how many posts each poster in a thread has posted. I don't believe this version allows for that, other than yourself.

I'm curious who has the most posts in here, and not sure if we should buy them something or get them checked out.
That honor would go to @CycloneErik, and yes, we should get him checked out :p
 
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I'll fully admit my knowledge base is heavily based on Iowa State and Iowa, but its been my understanding that financially the athletic programs and universities essentially stand alone. The only financial contribution the athletic departments would make to the university is paying tuition for the student athletes and maybe some use fees for university facilities. Otherwise the athletic depart spends the money they generate on things within the department like coaches salaries, team opperating budgets, and facility improvements. In the not too distant past the universities actually subsidized the athletic programs (this might still be the case at UNI). Now from a marketing and perception standpoint their is absolutely a significant role the athletic programs have for the university.
Think things are a little different at private Universities.
 
That's just a brag.
That was not my intention, I was just adding context to my post. It is interesting how some people on this site use it critique posters as opposed to discussing the topic at hand.

By the way, when I was at Stanford there were many ISU grads with me on full ride (the only way I could hope to afford it). Stanford holds ISU undergraduate Engineering and Computer science education in high regard. Over and out.
 
And if it weren’t for Apple kicking in to pay off the Comcast fiasco, that $13.5M to $19.6M becomes $6M, about the same as AAC.

Again, that means that there isn't a linear TV partner willing to pay even $13M to the remaining 9 teams. Oof.
 
Seriously, it just makes no sense right now.

You merge, you open up the ACC GOR and suddenly that merger is PAC+ACC minus everyone the big 10 and SEC takes. That remaining ACC is worse than the big 12, plus adds a lot more travel distance.

The only way it could happen imo is if the teams like FSU find a way to blow up the GOR, those teams leave, and PAC teams like Arizona are leaving for the big 12 at the same time. Then maybe the PAC-6/8 might find it appealing to merge with the ACC leftovers vs inviting a bunch of MWC teams. The problem is the likelihood of these things happening simultaneously is slim. More likely is the PAC suffers losses, has to backfill, and by the time the ACC is in a position to merge the PAC has all these other teams.

The only other thing I could see being a possibility is if teams in the ACC decide they want to help out the PAC with non-con scheduling so they don't have to backfill. Kind of going back to a PAC/ACC alliance. Something like every PAC school plays 7 conference games in an 8 team conference but gets 2 ACC games in non-conf. And you'd stack it so you have FSU/Oregon or Clemson/Washington games where those schools get to keep a bigger cut to keep them happier.

The PAC schools and smaller ACC schools would then have an eye on a merger when the ACC GOR ends if teams bolt but wouldn't be stuck with a lot of added teams that weaken the conference.

But there's still a lot of negotiating of future scheduled opponents and what the money and TV rights look like.
 


Now…I’ve never heard this man speak before watching this clip. I only post it because I find the few comments attached to it fascinating. Just how people can listen to the exact same thing and hear it so differently.
 
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