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Want to push back on this just a little bit. While obv getting a bigger media deal has been the focus neither of these conferences have done anything that they don’t want to do. Both the OUT move and the LA move make sense for both conferences. Have to give it a couple years to see what the travel situation is for the big ten but that’s further reason why they don’t want anymore western expansion.But it isn't really the B1G and SEC - it's ESPN. TV money has driven most of this, especially the last few moves OuT and USCLA. They are consolidating product (ie teams) to maximize value.
Or if you really want to go back in time, Oklahoma's lawsuit in the early 80s that broke it all lose.
For sure the conferences wanted to invite OUT and USCLA. However, I find it hard to believe the B10 “wanted” to add Rutgers. They only did it cause they’d get more moneyWant to push back on this just a little bit. While obv getting a bigger media deal has been the focus neither of these conferences have done anything that they don’t want to do. Both the OUT move and the LA move make sense for both conferences. Have to give it a couple years to see what the travel situation is for the big ten but that’s further reason why they don’t want anymore western expansion.
Bullsh*t. He couldn’t hold a candle to the Great Randy P.He has done a tremendous job this past week IMHO
Don't disagree - "willing accomplices" cashing the checks. But ESPN writes the checks. If USCLA would have diluted the B1G share per team by $8M per team, I have a hard time seeing it happen.Want to push back on this just a little bit. While obv getting a bigger media deal has been the focus neither of these conferences have done anything that they don’t want to do. Both the OUT move and the LA move make sense for both conferences. Have to give it a couple years to see what the travel situation is for the big ten but that’s further reason why they don’t want anymore western expansion.
You almost couldn't hear it over the heartfelt rendition of NSYNC's Bye Bye Bye from the Oregon, Washington, and Arizona athletic departmentI hear the meeting commenced with Kliavkoff covering Crowded House's "Don't Dream It's Over" backed up by the Stanford band.
UU spent the last yr saying how they were above the b12, if they come I'm sure they'll be fine conference partners, but till then they deserve whatever crap gets tossed their way. IMOI said this in another thread, but UU still has a lot of lds kids.
Honestly the hate for UU is funny on here because party wise, most of the big 12 is way closer to UU than BYU. That part is absolutely true.
The other things I would mention about BYU are cave things. It’s just a more complex hate than Iowa ISU.
What do these moves do for the conference beside make them money and keep them competing against the other in the P2? These conferences are responsible for the future demise of college football as we know it all for the mighty dollar coming from ESPN. So many communities will be devastated because the rich get richer all the while shrinking the fans drawn to college football. 2 leagues will not be enough for the health of the of college football. We already have a professional football league and the farm leagues are never going to be big draws.Want to push back on this just a little bit. While obv getting a bigger media deal has been the focus neither of these conferences have done anything that they don’t want to do. Both the OUT move and the LA move make sense for both conferences. Have to give it a couple years to see what the travel situation is for the big ten but that’s further reason why they don’t want anymore western expansion.
UCONN isn't the best hoops brand.
The feeling I can't shake is that a conference with West Virginia, UCF, Oregon, and Washington just isn't a long term stable conference. Now maybe no conference is truly stable and you can only look ahead the next handful of years anyway. But it just has the feeling of a conglomerate born out of necessity that eventually gets broken apart (and not just one or two teams leaving).
Agree with all of this. Give it a few years and most people's hate will be centered on UCF and BYU, I almost guarantee it haha
Their Twitter is a bunch of dipshits.What's up with UCF?
Actually espn isn’t writing any checks to the big ten. But yep totally agree they wouldn’t be added if the cost current members moneyDon't disagree - "willing accomplices" cashing the checks. But ESPN writes the checks. If USCLA would have diluted the B1G share per team by $8M per team, I have a hard time seeing it happen.
Rutgers fits in with the big ten quite well, if anything I would say it’s Nebraska they didn’t want to add, just an insane outlier in almost every way.For sure the conferences wanted to invite OUT and USCLA. However, I find it hard to believe the B10 “wanted” to add Rutgers. They only did it cause they’d get more money
Imagine Iowa fans, but with crippling credit card debt and swamp assWhat's up with UCF?
Well big ten isn’t getting paid by espn so that’s one thing. Second, every school but Nebraska fits into exactly what the big ten is and stands for and you could say the same about the SEC’s additions.What do these moves do for the conference beside make them money and keep them competing against the other in the P2? These conferences are responsible for the future demise of college football as we know it all for the mighty dollar coming from ESPN. So many communities will be devastated because the rich get richer all the while shrinking the fans drawn to college football. 2 leagues will not be enough for the health of the of college football. We already have a professional football league and the farm leagues are never going to be big draws.
Rutgers fits in academically but in an athletic conference, they are an odd fit.Rutgers fits in with the big ten quite well, if anything I would say it’s Nebraska they didn’t want to add, just an insane outlier in almost every way.