Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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It was that those two would clearly be better adds for the Big 10. They will likely add them eventually in my opinion…but they for certain would have already if they hadn’t previously grabbed Maryland and Rutgers. My point is it’s wise to be selective when you are able. The Big 12 is able now and should not rush adding 1 or 3 more. A G5 school should not be part of the conversation.
The issue with waiting is the landscape changes and your risking the conference strength and potentially being left out of the P3 in the MW/AAC. The Pac12 learned this a couple years ago by not being aggressive and ending the B12 when they had a golden opportunity. Are there some ACC schools that would be more value adds than Colorado possibly but they aren't options for 13 years and by that time who knows if the ACC has more strength and be looking to raid the B12. The end point is becoming THE P3 conference and with Big 10 and SEC raid the ACC later. To accomplish that Colorado is the domino to pull now.
I 100% agree with what we did then. I’m not G5 never…but I’m definitely no G5 now.
I've said this before, but joining a conference with a national footprint like the Big 12 would be a massive boon for online enrollment numbers.
Not sure how interested/aggressive we are in adding ASU, but I think that'd definitely be a part of BY's pitch.
I don't know about Utah. Take away their recent football success (which is significant) and what is left?
ASU has twice the enrollment and twice the state population and a bigger market in PHX (still matters a little bit). Sleeping giant compared to Utah.
If you simply switched football coaches at ASU and Utah, would you do a 180 on which was a better add to Big12?
I think you could argue UConn is a better add for the Big12. You might not win the argument, but it's debatable anyway.
In any event, I don't think Big12 adds ASU and Utah as 15 & 16. I think if Oregon doesn't jump, it stops at Arizona and 14.
Just trying to understand this, but how would a conference affiliation help with enrollment?
Sure - again, agree with taking CU…but in part because they get you an Arizona, Oregon, and or Washington…perhaps Utah at worst. No to Memphis or SDSU.
Guessing Utah is just monitoring what ASU does as it impacts their comfort level with the leftover PAC-12. If ASU bolts, then Utah will probably see writing on the wall and move on.
But if ASU is willing to ride it out for another contract, I’d bet Utah holds. Utah probably thinks they’ve got some very clear paths to some conference championships and free autonomous playoff bids. I’m guessing they’re still holding out hope that if they could elevate their brand over the near-term, that they could fall up into a B1G invite.
But if ASU is willing to ride it out for another contract, I’d bet Utah holds. Utah probably thinks they’ve got some very clear paths to some conference championships and free autonomous playoff bids. I’m guessing they’re still holding out hope that if they could elevate their brand over the near-term, that they could fall up into a B1G invite.
Definitely could make an argument for UConn over Utah.
I don't know about Utah. Take away their recent football success (which is significant) and what is left?
BYU is what's left. That's all the Big 12 needs, baby
I was just thinking in terms of more exposure. Getting the brand out to eyeballs in Orlando/Houston/Cinci/and Texas in ways that the PAC can't. Being in the Big 12 will give folks in those regions a reason to care about/pay attention to ASU.
EDIT: And then there's the exposure piece too. More national eyeballs tuning into the Big 12 on ESPN and FOX as opposed to the lower/niche reach of a streamer like Apple TV.
For sure. A lot of schools are probably getting fans outside their state border because they offer an online degree pathway. ISU recently launched an online MBA. Iowa has one. Nebraska has one. Several SEC schools have them. Depending on your budget, you can spend anywhere from $20k to +$120k in certain programs.
Many of those fans are buying the merchandise. They’re watching games on tv. They might be traveling to those towns to attend games. It adds another level to this that will be so fascinating to follow.
Starbucks will pay tuition for their employees to attend ASU online. Would adding ASU make the Big 12 the official conference of Starbucks?
Sign me up for this. Would make me feel a little bit better when looking at my wife's monthly Starbucks expenditures.
I can see having UCLA/USC as that extreme of an outlier doubled edged sword.
I am sure UCLA would appreciate having a couple West Coast schools to help break up the travel especially for the Olympic sports and adding in say Oregon/Washington would help them.
The other edge is you're asking the current B10 members to not only travel to LA (potential double headers) a select few times every few years but now to Wash and then Oregon multiple more times and perhaps yearly. That affects the current members a lot and they will be the ones vote on adding WC schools adding to their decision. I could totally see Penn state saying they only want expansion from ACC eastern schools.
That’s pretty cool. Just looked it up. What a nice program to offer