Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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Because the big ten doesn’t own the majority of BTN anymore and those carriage fees aren’t what they were. Also the presidents don’t want a P2. That is a media and message board narrative. They added the LA schools because it is a perfect fit of academics, athletics, politics, and market. Could it happen one day, sure, but there is zero rush for the big ten or sec to make a move. Especially since they are still trying to figure out how to integrate the LA schools.
Different Strokes/Different Folks!
Obviously, what motivates CU vs ASU is different. Just because ASU and Utah have been very outspoken about staying in the Pac12, doesn't mean they would be a bad fit for the Big12.
ASU, Utah and other Pac12 schools are motivated to stay in the Pac12. Is that loyalty to a fault? Is it financially motivated? It's probably both. The Pac12 is in the middle of a media rights negotiation, I would think ASU and Utah want to be committed to that process, to maximize the potential value of a Pac12 media deal.
Nothing wrong with being 100% committed. ASU & Utah have too much media value for the Big12 not to add.
Explain that a bit.
In industry articles carriage fees were a big reason for Big10 adding both USC & UCLA. There was a carriage multiplier for 2 schools in a geographic area with 17M+ people.
You can’t say “clearly” until they’ve had a full 5-10 years of b10 rejection and we go through ACC implosion with them still left out.
I guess they’d be better in that the Pac would be 100% crushed instead of 50% crushed but you just can’t say they’d be far better 10 years from now unless you know they get a hard “never” from B10.
Also, Jim Williams with a little lead here (not sure if he’s sourced though or just reading various Twitter accounts):
I agree with the bold. Personally, I love the CU add. I have a lot of personal connections to Colorado and love to visit. Them being back in the Big12 is great. HOWEVER, if they end up being the only Pac12 school to make the jump, this whole thing is close to a failure, in my opinion. CU just doesn’t move the needle on their own. If no other PAC school joins them, we have to elevate UCONN (or some other ******** entity, but most likely UCONN), and no Big12 fan should want that.
If Arizona joins CU, then this whole thing is good. Still not great though, in my opinion.
We need 4 schools from the PAC to make this whole thing a slam dunk. OR and WA would be sexier, but ASU and Utah would be (almost) just as effective.
I guess my point was a few years back we were hours from being out of the P5 for good and relegated to a G5 conference. Anything above that is a win.
Why would UT 'monitor' ASU when there's absolutely no correlation on the L.A. connection between the two schools. Or am I unaware of a UT satellite campus in L.A. too?
Why do people think this is ASU’s choice? Our media partners said to hold at 14. And Fox may not pay for them to join. Is ASU big enough to take a pay cut for the other 14 schools?
ASU may end up taking their time to a Mountain West affiliation. Utah as well.
I get that, but why is that a reason for UT to hold pat? Unless there are numbers to make the Pac12 viable even 'after' AZ leaves. Which, to me, seems ludicrous.
[edit] Per CloneHomer, it's media partner's control.
Do they realize that the PAC no longer has a presence in LA? Not sure I understand the reasoning...
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Interesting. I know that UA and ASU have been aggressive about online degrees. UA in particular markets itself heavily to veterans.
I just looked it up and ASU has 57k online students, with total enrollment of about 135k for all campuses. That is a massive number. Their online MBA is generally well ranked.
I’m interested in how this data impacts value and projections with all of this.
Interesting. I know that UA and ASU have been aggressive about online degrees. UA in particular markets itself heavily to veterans.
I just looked it up and ASU has 57k online students, with total enrollment of about 135k for all campuses. That is a massive number. Their online MBA is generally well ranked.
I’m interested in how this data impacts value and projections with all of this.
I’ve lived in LA for 8.5 years and had no clue ASU had an LA campus.
If there’s a publicity issue it has nothing to do with PAC 12 sports helping their marketing.