Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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KidSilverhair
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You know, I think it’s going to be funny when the top programs go off on their own and tell the Vandys and Rutgers to pound sand.
In all their majestic “it just means more” egotism, they forget every game requires a loser as well as a winner. When the Arkansases and the South Carolinas and the Michigan States start seeing 3-9, 4-8 every year with their upside being maaaaybe a 6-6 season once in a while, they ain’t gonna be happy with that.
Upon hearing that Colorada was re-joining the Big 12, the Husker Board is becoming nostalgic for their old conference again. Here are a few of their comments...
"I would love to be back in the Big 12, particularly if CU and if somehow OU would stay. Damn, I miss those games. I’ve hated being in the BIG since we joined. Other than everyone’s standard hatred for Iowa, I don’t give a **** about any BIG teams."
"Most don't really give a **** about Iowa either. That "standard hatred" is contrived and forced."
"Put me down for wishing we were back in the B12. I loathe our current situation."
"4 to 5 teams within a day's drive, lots of different styles of football, and no 1-2 teams dominating the conference, I know it will never happen in a rich man's world, but this sounds like a fun conference to be in."
"We'd be the only blue blood plus some pretty good cultural fit and some old rivalries restored. Pretty spare top to bottom though without Texas and OU in there."
"It is shocking just how bad teams in the Big Ten are but for some reason, fans pretend like they are tough games."
"Reality - no conference in human history has seen as much simultaneous losing and sexual abuse of its students & athletes as the B1G"
"But remember - we played Minnesota a grand total of four times between 1975 and 2010 - for people who grew up in the Big 8, playing Minnesota (like a lot of Big 10 teams) is basically like playing a dull non-conference opponent - you want Nebraska to win, but that's it."
"We play a B1G schedule and cash B1G checks. That's as far as it goes. Many others seem to want us to become uber-woke student diddlers (a B1G school). We are much, much better than that."
"Nebraska would have a better shot at winning a conference championship in football and making the playoffs. I think about Texas and OU joining the SEC. Some of their fans are already lamenting the likelihood that both schools could be looking at seasons where they finish in the middle of the pack. The competition in the SEC (and Big 10) at the top level is fierce and only getting tougher. So how bad would it be to take OU's place in the Big 12? The new staff already recruits Texas very well. It will never happen though...."
"You're not getting the point of what past history and identity meant.. KU was rarely ever going to beat NU.. we had a lot of history against that team, (and others).. and that was partly why we were successful. We had a history of beating those teams, and they knew they were going to get beat. That paid dividends to the team every year. In the current conference, it's now the other way around.. that's what has happened with the mismanagement of the program by taking it to another conference."
"Many of the memories of the KU and KSU games were because there were always seats available at those stadiums. Those were de facto home games from 1960 to when Snyder got things rolling for KSU and Mangino for KU. Same with Iowa St."
"Frost was only able to beat teams from one single P5 conference - the weak B1G - during his tenure. If we were still in the Big 12 we may not have won a single conference game last year."
"I would love to be back in the Big 12, particularly if CU and if somehow OU would stay. Damn, I miss those games. I’ve hated being in the BIG since we joined. Other than everyone’s standard hatred for Iowa, I don’t give a **** about any BIG teams."
"Most don't really give a **** about Iowa either. That "standard hatred" is contrived and forced."
"Put me down for wishing we were back in the B12. I loathe our current situation."
"4 to 5 teams within a day's drive, lots of different styles of football, and no 1-2 teams dominating the conference, I know it will never happen in a rich man's world, but this sounds like a fun conference to be in."
"We'd be the only blue blood plus some pretty good cultural fit and some old rivalries restored. Pretty spare top to bottom though without Texas and OU in there."
"It is shocking just how bad teams in the Big Ten are but for some reason, fans pretend like they are tough games."
"Reality - no conference in human history has seen as much simultaneous losing and sexual abuse of its students & athletes as the B1G"
"But remember - we played Minnesota a grand total of four times between 1975 and 2010 - for people who grew up in the Big 8, playing Minnesota (like a lot of Big 10 teams) is basically like playing a dull non-conference opponent - you want Nebraska to win, but that's it."
"We play a B1G schedule and cash B1G checks. That's as far as it goes. Many others seem to want us to become uber-woke student diddlers (a B1G school). We are much, much better than that."
"Nebraska would have a better shot at winning a conference championship in football and making the playoffs. I think about Texas and OU joining the SEC. Some of their fans are already lamenting the likelihood that both schools could be looking at seasons where they finish in the middle of the pack. The competition in the SEC (and Big 10) at the top level is fierce and only getting tougher. So how bad would it be to take OU's place in the Big 12? The new staff already recruits Texas very well. It will never happen though...."
"You're not getting the point of what past history and identity meant.. KU was rarely ever going to beat NU.. we had a lot of history against that team, (and others).. and that was partly why we were successful. We had a history of beating those teams, and they knew they were going to get beat. That paid dividends to the team every year. In the current conference, it's now the other way around.. that's what has happened with the mismanagement of the program by taking it to another conference."
"Many of the memories of the KU and KSU games were because there were always seats available at those stadiums. Those were de facto home games from 1960 to when Snyder got things rolling for KSU and Mangino for KU. Same with Iowa St."
"Frost was only able to beat teams from one single P5 conference - the weak B1G - during his tenure. If we were still in the Big 12 we may not have won a single conference game last year."
They likely just havent made that decision yet, on 20 vs 24. Theres a lot of flux around media rights and how streaming, linear et al is changing. They might want to just sit tight a few years and see how it shakes out.
The B1G is in a position where they dont HAVE to make moves. Teams will always join them when called.
Who's to say if they add UO and UW the B1G wouldn't try bringing in Apple or Amazon or some other streamer that's not currently a partner to add coverage and help offset the gap?
After spending way too much time on the Utah board I am a lot more concerned about Utah becoming the next Texas than I am Oregon and Washington.
KidSilverhair
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* B1G takes USC/UCLA away from the PAC
* Media/Kliavkoff: “Why is the Big XII trying to destroy the PAC12?”
And they’ve probably given a deadline to see those numbers now the CU has made their move. Could be 1 day, could be a week, could be two weeks, but I don’t see it being longer than two weeks away.
UConn as an expansion candidate seems like smoke and mirrors too. They are so far away, football is below mediocre, and they just got back with the Big East with most of their old rivals and they are happy about it. They don't really carry NYC and ESPN doesn't give UConn special treatment being nearby.
UConn has two things that would be attractive - one is basketball and two is to take off them from an ACC expansion candidate.
I would rather hold off on UConn but continue to do a Big East/Big 12 Challenge and to collaborate more with UConn and/or Big East on these special basketball projects Yormark cooks up.
UConn has two things that would be attractive - one is basketball and two is to take off them from an ACC expansion candidate.
I would rather hold off on UConn but continue to do a Big East/Big 12 Challenge and to collaborate more with UConn and/or Big East on these special basketball projects Yormark cooks up.
We have remember that they’ve gone/are going through a leadership change. People have different ideas and plans. Plans take time to implement. Warren had a vision of just the LA schools for now. The new leadership may honor that plan or they may have a different plan. The different plan would take time to get in place and go in to motion. They might have missed a window and we may benefit. It’s impossible to say at this point.
Plus, even if the b1g doesn’t want them (which I think is becoming more obvious every week) do we really want two teams in our conference who think they’re better than everybody else? I thought we were getting away from that finally.
Agree that UConn is likely a smokescreen at this point with the B12 using them as leverage to get ORWA and/or the 4Cs on board. BB is reportedly included in the new B12 TV with FB so the value of UConn will come moreso in 2031 when the BB contract will supposedly be split from FB and if the B12 expands beyond 16 at that point in time.
For west coast games that would never be considered for primetime or any of the big $$ timeslots?
KidSilverhair
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That Husker board is pretty funny - “it’s shocking how bad most of the teams in the B1G are”
Uh, have you seen yourselves lately, Nebraska fan?
Uh, have you seen yourselves lately, Nebraska fan?
Had no clue there are that many smart Husker fans. That first guy was outstanding.
Thanks for the round up of comments. I enjoyed reading about the sadness that has enveloped the Husker fans with not a word about the money they receive. I find that interesting.