Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[isufbcurt]

UCONN is garbage and would be a major blunder. You keep working with UA and Oregon to get one of them on board.

 

[HFCS]

ASU and Utah have only their fans and administrators to blame. Compare them to the BYU fan base, beat writers, and podcasters who are suddenly the most vocal B12 cheerleaders in the conference and have yet to play a game. BYU is kind of growing on me.

I will say for both Utah and BYU they have the bones of major conference football programs having spent a little time there both of the past two summers. It's just been geography and circumstance/religion keeping them out historically.

Utah fans are acting completely irrationally. I hope they all secretly know everything they say is completely stupid.

 

[06_CY]

It wouldn't hurt my feelings if the B12 rented Oregon for a handful of years until the B10 was ready.

 

[clone37]

Even if Oregon and Washington leave for the Big Ten at the next renewal, they add great value to the league while they're here. It's about making money and you might as well make the money now even if it isn't permanent.

Taking UConn right now is ...at most a bunt.

The UCONN thing has to just be bait at this point right? I mean, it wouldn't be a horrible add, but would be pretty disappointing if UCONN ended up being the 14th with what is going down right now.

 

[jbhtexas]

Water is wet. Oregon cannot feel good about getting a B1G invite if they wait for the ACC to collapse. If B1G says no, I'm starting to believe they may join our national conference that is young, hip, and cool like their nike uniforms.

This is the problem with Oregon...if they really want to be in the Big Ten but "settle" and come to the Big 12. This becomes a source of instability, and a potential bad look for the Big 12 a few years down the road if Oregon bolts for the Big Ten, as the Big 12 would lose another big name.

 

[Acylum]

Not directly, but what Arizona does will influence their decision. The PAC is in crisis with Colorado's departure; with Arizona gone they're a sinking ship. While Oregon and Washington are the premium brands in the PAC regardless at this point with USC, UCLA, and Colorado gone, even those two can't overcome the overwhelming hurdle of overcoming the MWC's GOR to add teams to get back to 10. With AZ gone it will now be 2 teams they have to find. Add in to the fact that the PAC doesn't have a TV deal and a respectable one isn't in the works - one that isn't going to come anywhere close to what the Big 12 has. I know UO and UW are already thinking about leaving, but AZ leaving might be what finally gets them to do it.

I just don’t think the scenario with Arizona gone is all that much different than it is right now.

 

[Cyghhh]

Biggest obstacle with UCONN is that it's not considered a football "P5" school, I'm assuming, and will eat into per team revenue and Presidents are balking at that. I get it, but I'd put my trust in BY at this point.

 

[jcyclonee]

Not relevant for now, but in my humble opinion VT and NC State are worth more to the sec than FSU and clemson.

NC and Virginia are HUGE ASS sports states, and the SEC already has a foothold in florida and SC.

My guess is ESPN tells the SEC to add FSU/clemson/VT, and NC State.

SEC will want UNC, but UNC will pick the BIG over the SEC.

I dont see SEC or BIG taking Canes. Small private school, hasnt done anything in football in decades.

Big 12 hopefully gets VT, NC State, Pitt, Louisville and miami.
i think we have a better shot at miami than nc state or vt. I dont see the sec or BIG letting the big 12 have those states.

BC has no fans anywhere, not even in boston. they are not a take. neither is WF, Cuse ( no fans), or GT (no fans),

GT gets invited somewhere. It's an academically elite, large, public university in a huge city in the middle of a top-5 state for football recruiting. They don't have a huge fanbase but they check off every other box you'd want to have checked off.

 

[2speedy1]

UCONN sits right in between New York and Boston, 2 huge media markets. B1G added Rutgers for a reason and with UCONN you at least get a basketball blueblood. They can improve football with the increased media revenue, but getting into those media markets would be huge for the Big12

B1G added Rutgers because of how the BTN is structured.

Giant media markets....regardless of viewership matters more to them because they get carriage fees for BTN.

But that dynamic is shifting, and I dont know how their carriage fees transfer to the streaming model.

I am sure they get fees, but it takes people actually wanting to view the content on streaming more than just requiring all area cable packages to carry the BTN.

 

[Gunnerclone]

Also, UCONN vs Syracuse who do you have? I've always heard UCONN has more of NYC than anyone else. I'd vote for UCONN, if they grab any of NE too that's icing.

I would vote UConn there

 

[Gunnerclone]

Biggest obstacle with UCONN is that it's not considered a football "P5" school, I'm assuming, and will eat into per team revenue and Presidents are balking at that. I get it, but I'd put my trust in BY at this point.

The kicker to that is we don’t have to give them a full share either.

 

[MugNight]

Among those 5 that are almost certain to make sense for B12, I see Pitt as the best fit and the other four all have their own positives and would def be worthy additions for sure.

If Duke or GTech fall to B12 they'd definitely make sense. Not sure about BC, probably depends which other schools B12 has in NE already.

I'm very ignorant of BC's fandom and northeast college sports fandom in general. It's the only part of the country I haven't lived in or spent lots of vacationing other than visiting NYC and DC a handful of times. These Pac schools I either live near or I've spent time camping/hiking all over their state (I was just near Provo for a week and now in NorCal for a week). I have no clue if BC is someplace that just embodies FBS football and major D1 sports or if they end up in that Wake Forest/WSU/Ore St danger zone, the same place ISU/KSU found themselves several times.

On BC, they’re in a pro sports town. It’s Patriots, Bruins, Red Sox, Celtics before any realm of college football. Notre Dame probably has more fans there that BC. BC hockey is probably more popular than football.

BC gets up for two games: Notre Dame and the Red Bandana game (which is an incredible story about an alum who passed away on 9/11 while helping numerous people get the safety). Boston itself is a hotbed of good schools with various sports allegiances: Boston U, Harvard, Northeastern.

They would be fish out of water at a night game in Stillwater, OK or Lubbock, TX.

 

[clone52]

I don't see any reason 11, 13 or 15 are a bad number for a conference. Big Ten did fantastic with 11 for a long time.

Every conference is ditching divisions.

The whole mystique about 12, 14, 16 is just forcing programs to more quickly make the decision Colorado made yesterday.

Hey Arizona, if you don't hurry UConn is already in for #14 and then we have to close shop for a bit.

Hey Washington and Oregon, we're at 14 with AZ/CO and if one of you wants to join we'll fill in with UCONN for that 16th spot...then they both join.

Can't do 9 conference games with 11, 13 or 15.

 

[HouClone]

Just got online to read the news of the days. I am seeing that the lethargic ACC is thinking of grabbing Arizona, Arizona State, Utah, Oregon, and Washington?

 

[nrg4isu]

This is the problem with Oregon...if they really want to be in the Big Ten but "settle" and come to the Big 12. This becomes a source of instability, and a potential bad look for the Big 12 a few years down the road if Oregon bolts for the Big Ten, as the Big 12 would lose another big name.

Is it better to have loved and lost vs never loved at all? Lol

I'm ok with renting the Ducks for 5 years

 

[HFCS]

The UCONN thing has to just be bait at this point right? I mean, it wouldn't be a horrible add, but would be pretty disappointing if UCONN ended up being the 14th with what is going down right now.

AZ is in.

 

[isucy86]

Water is wet. Oregon cannot feel good about getting a B1G invite if they wait for the ACC to collapse. If B1G says no, I'm starting to believe they may join our national conference that is young, hip, and cool like their nike uniforms.

I am starting to wonder if Big10 would prefer Washington and Stanford as next adds. Strong academics and Big10 presence in Seattle and Bay Area.

Could be Oregon is getting that same vibe and are open to Big12 talk. Getting UA, ASU, OR and CU would be very solid.

 

[LeaningCy]

Only good thing about UConn would be if ESPN's east-coast ****-stroking is a transferrable benefit to the rest of the conference.

I don't want them to muck things up right now, though. Let us get to 14 or 16, then they can be basketball-only adds with Gonzaga some day.

 

[jdoggivjc]

I think that 4 corners at once thing would have forced Ore/Wa to try to join B12 along with 4 corners.

It's really ASU and Utah rejecting Big 12 (or being stiff armed behind closed doors by BY, we don't know) that allow what's left of their conference to be a viable waiting platform for them.

If the 4 corners had left all at once they'd only have their in-state rivals and Stanford/Cal. That aint much.

I think 1-2 years ago when BY was trying to rebuild the Big 12 on paper the 4 Corners option really appealed to him and all of us. CU and AZ were keen to the idea; ASU and Utah thought the PAC was the superior option and since has talked nothing but mad **** about not wanting to be part of the truck stop conference. And in that time BY has moved on from them and shut that door for them. And in that time the script has flipped. CU has already jumped; AZ seems to just need the final push, and even UO and UW are considering their options. Yet ASU and Utah remain steadfast in not wanting to join the truck stop conference. All I have to say about that is, to coin a Vince McMahon line, "best of luck in your future endeavors."

 

[clone52]

Odd numbers mean one team must be on a bye week or playing a non conf opponent every week. Could get a little difficult late in the season.

Thats not the real problem. The real problem is going to an 8 game schedule instead of 9.