Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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Neon Deion needs work on getting FSU to the Big 12. Might as well have another Big 12 school down there...
I think it would be the opposite. They'd have to pay a lot more for OU/WA in the B1G than in the Big 12.
I hear you. My understanding is that if we find a way to be the 3rd best conference in the Power 2.5 era, it's nice to be the undisputed king of basketball because then B1G and SEC cannot totally break away from us.
if yall were sitting near the louisville mfers i was at fred's last game. you'd rather die first. F loserville
I'm moving away from a solid NO on UConn to it might be a good thing. They already have the stadium and the area in which to tailgate and alcohol is served in the stadium that is just outside of Hartford. They use an old Pratt and Whitney built runway for parking and tailgating so they have the room for a college football game day experience.
With the addition to the Big 12, that might become a better football get than we realize because it would force UConn to pay some attention to football. If you live in the Northeast and want a college game day experience, UConn could deliver.
With the addition to the Big 12, that might become a better football get than we realize because it would force UConn to pay some attention to football. If you live in the Northeast and want a college game day experience, UConn could deliver.
I'm not sure where to place BC or Syracuse. I could go either way, for a lot of the same reasons you list. It goes back to what everyone's end goal is. If everyone goes to 20, I'd have to think Louisville, BC and Syracuse are in the danger zone.
Things that appear to be the case as of today:
-UConn & Pac-12 members are the current expansion targets
-Adding 1 more school to get to 14 seems very likely
-Getting to 15 or 16 probably involves adding Oregon and/or Washington
On the last point, its probably a combination of FOX/ESPN being much more comfortable with pro rata for two schools unless it involves larger brands like Oregon/Washington. For the Big 12 going to 14 now instead of 16 allows for more flexibility during future realignment (potential ACC breakup) and could be helpful during the next media rights negotiation.
-UConn & Pac-12 members are the current expansion targets
-Adding 1 more school to get to 14 seems very likely
-Getting to 15 or 16 probably involves adding Oregon and/or Washington
On the last point, its probably a combination of FOX/ESPN being much more comfortable with pro rata for two schools unless it involves larger brands like Oregon/Washington. For the Big 12 going to 14 now instead of 16 allows for more flexibility during future realignment (potential ACC breakup) and could be helpful during the next media rights negotiation.
If you read Louisville message boards, those guys are like Arizona in wanting the Big12 at this point. If the ACC dies, I firmly believe they will be 1 of the teams we accept.
UCONN sits right in between New York and Boston, 2 huge media markets. B1G added Rutgers for a reason and with UCONN you at least get a basketball blueblood. They can improve football with the increased media revenue, but getting into those media markets would be huge for the Big12
That's UCF in basketball.
Thank goodness at least one addition isn't some basketball power or a program similar to ISU's level. Even Colorado we know the road games gave our greatest teams fits with the altitude.
I know it's good for the conference but adding potentially Arizona, UConn, Houston, Cincy to the already #1 basketball conference makes my head spin. I know it'll likely be either/or with UConn/Arizona but either one will be tough.
My info could also be out of date so obv take that with a massive grain of salt. Plus the whole iron clad ACC GOR has limited the amount of info on the ACC schools desirability
They are delusional. They said the PAC can win as long as they get their deal. Even if they can get a deal equal to Big 12 per team payout (which I seriously doubt at this point), they still will have lost at least 3 teams, the tv slots with Fox and ESPN, and any decent perception the general public has about the conference
Not to mention in their statement yesterday they said they’ll pursue expansion AFTER getting a media rights deal, which could be some time away. So they’re not even going to add SMU to try and create some short-term stability (if adding SMU even accomplishes that at all)
Your list of 3 is what I've always heard, but I've constantly seen they want in Florida with the ongoing debate about the ACC dying. I think Washington matches more of what they're looking for than UVA, but their eyes are east not west.
I'm indifferent on UCONN with the exception that the conference has to sign a 100-year promise to not move the Big 12 Basketball Tournament to MSG/Barclay's
Agree with this.
Weeks ago there was a question about if Cal/Stanford fit in...it seems they are not remotely part of any Big 12 equation. The lack of interest seems totally mutual.
I hear nothing about them and the Big Ten either, unlike Washington/Oregon where there are still rumblings.
I think Cal/Stanford will have to decide if they are marquee brands of the new Pac/MWC hybrid or they step back from FBS football or football entirely. Maybe they feel more akin to the WCC schools culturally (elite insanely expensive California schools mostly) and academically.
To be honest of every school in the nation they are the first two I could see stepping away from the sport of football over CTE type concerns. They don't really have passionate fanbases.
if BY wants to add UCONN, then add UCONN. he hasnt made a bad decision yet. i fully trust he is making the right call here.
I think a massive delusion they have is not understanding they only have 9 teams. Remember OU's Boren saying we were psychologically disadvantaged? If every other conference is at 16 or heck 20, the PAC is going to have that appearance at 10-12. SD St and SMU are ok adds, but they need more than that. More than that will dilute their money big time. It's never going to work long-term. It's dead and they just haven't realized it. We already took the best from the Group of 5 and they are limited by geography, we aren't.