Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[keepngoal]

Absolutely can give more detail

Monetarily: I don’t believe Fox would agree to increase the payouts pro rata for Cal like they have with CU and potentially others. I fully admit I could be wrong on that.

Athletically: Cal is poor in football and basketball. I can’t necessarily speak to their other sports, but they haven’t been competitive in the two main ones in 10+ years. In football they are 66-84 since 2010. In basketball their last tourney appearance was 2016 and last sweet 16 was 1997. I’d say that’s probably on par with ISU athletically. But if the tables were turned here, I don’t think ISU would be considered for P12 membership unfortunately

Culturally is tough to explain, and anecdotal, but I’ve worked with several Berkeley grads and CU grads. Berkeley is just a different world than the Midwest. Well beyond your typical liberal campus environment, even for a liberal campus like Boulder. I’m not saying that’s bad, and don’t want to cave the topic. I’m not using liberal for a political discussion, just as a descriptor. I’m saying the Big 12’s priorities on football and Cal’s priorities, vision and goals won’t align. This is a student body/alumni that had a massive, 2 year tree sit-in over the removal of a grove of oak trees to build an athletic facility in 2008. That is an example of how culturally the school and conference don’t align

Monitarilly is just about what media will pay? If so, that’s all that matters.

Athletically, way more history in FB than anything in the state of Iowa and most (if not all) of the B12 post realignment. These things are cyclical on relevance. As to all other sports way more nattys than ISU.

Cultural issues don’t matter in this. That’s my hill.

As to the issues with the PAC, IMO, the time zone, open slots in that, and it’s own remote region. The eyeballs of the EC matter.

 

[Triggermv]

This one is a bit more credible than my previous post

 

[Nolaeer]

fwiw UConn > cal, wazzu, and Oregon State.

Yormark wants that NE market badly.

if I could pick any teams I wanted to get to 16:
Az, Uconn, Oregon, and Washington.

 

[RezClone]

 

[Triggermv]

Scheer is just dunking all over. My bad, I guess the Pac is "trading up". Yep, that is what it is.

 

[Big_Sill]

Just secure Arizona ASAP, and then pause for a moment.

 

[SCNCY]

The amount of COPE here is off the charts.

LOL at the last one, fight back. No university is going to prevent research cooperation with another. Especially because of what Athletics is doing.

 

[MugNight]

Not sure on credibility. Figure this has ACC big boys turning in their seats.

 

[JHUNSY]

The amount of COPE here is off the charts.

I like that he can’t admit that he was living with his head in the clouds and not even close to reality with any of his takes based on his so called “statistics” and “data.” Nope, he wasn’t wrong- it was just incompetence from those in the positions to make the moves necessary…

Bruh. Holy melt down.

 

[Gorm]

Not sure on credibility. Figure this has ACC big boys turning in their seats.

A 24/7 forum moderator? Da Faq?

 

[Triggermv]

Not sure on credibility. Figure this has ACC big boys turning in their seats.

This thing could get quite messy really soon

 

[FerShizzle]

No spin zone there

they can trade up and replace Arizona and Oregon and Washington, etc... i get conveying confidence, but JFC.

 

[Triggermv]

Boy, twitter has been fun today. Am I smug??? Naw, I'm not smug.

 

[Triggermv]

 

[simply1]

Not sure on credibility. Figure this has ACC big boys turning in their seats.

Been beat to death on their gor.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

The cultural angle seems emotional, ergo illogical. And isn’t a thing for those making decisions. Some talked about 600lb gorillas at the state level… TX and BU come to mind, as well as OK for OSU. And the only one successful of the three was BU. And those states have different responsibilities than anything we talk about in regards to college athletics.

We are on a site with fanatics in its name… and the need to be culturally aligned fits the name, cause that isn’t reality.

If School X of Y culture can get full shares with an offer from a conference that conference isn’t looking at culture.

You couldn’t be more wrong saying “this isn’t a thing for those making the decisions” it 100% is. The presidents and alums do not want to be associated with the majority of the Big12 and the optics of sullying that rep is not worth it for how little they care about athletics. The politics matter to those schools to an insane degree.

 

[Acylum]

Not sure on credibility. Figure this has ACC big boys turning in their seats.

Interesting. Eickholt told Ken Miller this morning he was hearing rumblings of movement from teams outside the PAC.

 

[alarson]

A 24/7 forum moderator? Da Faq?

Screw getting some actual sources, lets quote the internet janitor of a team's message board

 

[HFCS]

I think the B12 would take Cal and/or Stanford in a heartbeat.

The issue to think about with Cal, Stanford, UCLA and SDSU is there are almost no actual real fans. I'm not far from the Rose Bowl and you'd never know a game is being played compared to how Ames turns into a carnival celebration every football saturday. I happen to have Stanford, UCLA and SDSU alum friends/coworkders, I know way more about their teams than they do. They don't even know when they make the Final Four.

Even SDSU is a better school than people realize, and those other three are globally elite. It's time to ask what that really does or doesn't do for an athletic conference. My guess is not nearly as much as was always thought.

UCLA is going to be playing road games at home in the Big Ten for a few seasons with people turning it into a fall vacation. It's a stunningly beautiful place, great area, perfect fall climate and no locals show up to games. SDSU would be the same way in the Big 12. Not sure if Big Ten/Big 12 fans would make vacations for Cal/Stanford.

 

[TXCyclones]

I feel like he's not using the "*" correctly to replace the letters. Because I can't think of a 5-letter word for his point. I could see ****. Make its plural?