I think the PAC is using this time to go through creative accounting to make the appearance their deal is similar to Big 12.
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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I agree with your take. The longer this drags on, the more I feel like the Pac will stay together around some smoke-and-mirrors deal that will let them try and claim they are equivalent to the Big 12. It would take a team of forensic accountants to find all the lies while their talking shills routinely spin it as victory.
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They will announce they are getting $40 million in TV revenue but not announce that they agreed to pay $20 million a year for advertising on the network
WVU AD said that WVU's travel costs for basketball alone was 7 figues, and it would be an economic loss for WVU if PAC schools were added unless scheduling arrangements were made.
I think the big 12 needs a 4th eastern team for pods.
and yes, the WVU AD said the expanded big 12 needs pods, especially for olympic sports.
He was on The 3 guys before the game podcast if anyone wants to hear it.
I think the big 12 needs a 4th eastern team for pods.
and yes, the WVU AD said the expanded big 12 needs pods, especially for olympic sports.
He was on The 3 guys before the game podcast if anyone wants to hear it.
I agree. One thing we have to keep in mind is even if the PAC's TV deal miraculously gets close to the Big XII's, I don't know if that's even good enough to keep it together.
With the Big XII's deal having automatic escalators for adding teams, why not make the jump if you're CU or 'Zona? You'll make more money.
Everybody's just saying the right things now to avoid tanking a potential TV deal for the PAC and/or getting blamed for the conference dissolving.
There was a lot of smoke this weekend that their deal will be very near to slightly better than the B12’s. The fly in the ointment may be the streaming percentage and whether you even want to believe the people who were tweeting that.
Unless the opponent is within a couple hours, no one is cheaping out and taking a bus, these days on travel. Almost all sports fly everywhere.
ISU even flys most sports, including Mens and Womens Basketball to our closest conference opponent, Kansas, which is about 250 miles.
So if they are flying to a location within a few hours drive they are going to fly pretty much everywhere. Flying 500 Miles vs flying 1000 miles is not much different in cost, or time.
With that, its not like WVU has very many easy to get to teams that are within driving distance for them. That are either, available or worth adding. Outside of Pitt, who isnt available, anyone that is added is not going to change their travel costs significantly. The conference added Cinci, which could be driven, from Morgantown, but likely the team will still fly there.
WVU crying about distance is getting old. They knew the travel distance when they joined. And they are going to fly everywhere regardless.
I suppose it is possible that having CU and UA out publicly flirting with the Big12 could HELP Kliavkoff in his negotiations. e.g. "you have to give me $50M more or else I will lose teams and you will get no product at all".
At this point, who knows. I have gone from thinking it is very likely they stay together, to very likely they blow up, to basically agnostic at this point.
Not when you're flying charter. But most of the Olympic programs are going commercial. The travel logistics for some of those programs are a giant pain in the ass.
Still doesnt change the fact that they are flying everywhere regardless, so they are going through that process and cost regardless. Unless the conference adds someone within a couple hours drive it is not going to matter.
And this day and age, conferences are going away from having teams that close together, because they share media markets. They want them spread out to get more individual markets. Its all about media money, and that media money is paying for that travel.
At one point he said in January that if a deal isn’t done by mid-March then the odds of survival plummet. Someone called him out on it in April and he changed course and said that he’s keeping the odds of P12 survival at like a 4 point favorite indefinitely because no news doesn’t mean bad news.
Seemed like most of the quotes were coming from the Washington State president. Lot of bias there.
One of my favorite shenanigans from the PAC Karen’s is the “if it’s 6 or 7 million difference, why would anyone jump?” Oh idk, it’s a ******* 33% raise maybe?
Except does anyone thing that Wash and Oregon will take payouts $50M-$60M per year (by 2030) less than USC and UCLA? Good luck with that deal...
Ummm they don’t really have a choice or say in this if that invite doesn’t miraculously appear
He wasnt crying about travel costs, just stating that if western teams are added, WVU wants travel accomadations so it doesn have to travel even farther than it already does--especially for olympic sports.
WVU's new AD is a good guy. he said WVU needs to do what's best for the Big 12, but he thinks things can be done if the corner schools are added to help keep WVU's trvel costs to what they are now.
WVU joined the Big 12, not the PAC. I dont think anyone 11 years ago was thinking the soccer team travels to oregon or washington this week. If we get the 4 corner schools, we'll end up with wash and Oregon too--for 6 years.
All that said, i think WVU wants uconn so they can have that eastern pod of 4.