Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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I really don’t see what their leverage is to try to force this. They can’t leave because of the GOR. They can’t break the GOR, or they’d just do that. A bigger cut of ACC money is still waaaay behind the B10/SEC. They won’t stay at the end of the GOR if they have other options.
Same reason why we did. FSU is a big money maker and if they left, those other schools are potentially looking at a lower payout, like the PAC.
Given we were able to maintain our current media payout, it would be bigger if OU and Texas decided to stay.
Georgia, bama, Ohio state, Clemson. Recruits and stars matter. That’s the end of the story. Yeah bad coaching can yank stars. Just look at home much the Jags improved after dumping meyer after one year and that’s the NFL.
Without elite recruiting your always going to have a hard ceiling.
Yeah they may be underperforming their recruiting rankings, but they still pull out winning seasons more often than we do.
Thats not a good example, they have been the best teams for a decade. Of course they will get the 5 star guys.
Yeah and that’s why they stay the best teams? You’re kinda proving my point. That’s why Georgia can send 15 guys to the NFL and win the natty the next year. They are loaded with talent because they get the highest rated players.
$120M is the conference exit fee. GOR is separate. They could pay the $120m and leave, but the ACC would still own their media rights. How much would it be to buy those back? The low end value would be whatever they’d get from the ACC over the remaining years left, currently 13. High end would be whatever they’d get from the B10 or SEC over that period.
The numbers might make sense someday, but probably not before the B10s next deal starts in 2031.
It’s early. You try these other approaches before you get to the madman theory.
If 4-6 schools want out, they can make this messy and enough a lose-lose. And why do that when win-win is possible given the terminal nature of ACC
Sh*tty player development, especially under Frost, is a pretty obvious reason. Nebby landed 29 four-star guys between 2017-2020 alone. Other programs landing gobs of 4-star recruits haven't struggled putting guys into the league. And I'd be willing to bet NFL scouts spend little if any time watching HS tape.
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Dude I’m not arguing with you. I was responding to the poster who idiotically said that recruiting rankings don’t matter. They 100% do and you’re a moron if you don’t think so. Especially at the top level of cfb
Calm down Nancy I am not arguing with you either. You liked a post where I said almost all schools need to find gems and coach them up. Not many schools can reload every year, your school included. I am probably just pissed off at the ISU bball game. It was a **** show.
Hahaha fair. I just couldn’t believe someone said the rankings don’t matter. I also have to watch Iowa’s coach be a deranged maniac during a game that should have been over awhile ago so I’m probably also on edge.
FSU, Clemson or whomever else wants to leave can stomp their feet and hold their breath, but there's not really much they can do to "make things messy."
The ACC has no reason to negotiate and there is no "win-win." There's win (4-5 schools that get B10/SEC invites), don't lose (4-6 to the B12), and lose (everyone else). Unless the schools that want to leave can find a way to make the GOR unenforceable, their choices are stick around or buy their way out, and buying their way out isn't economically viable for the time being.
If GORs were easy to break, OUT wouldn't done it. They paid $50m apiece for 1 year and that was with ESPN on their side. The ACC has 13 years left.
Rankings matter....especially in the top 10 ranks....not as much difference between say ranks 20-40. What they do show though is that despite great rankings some can still **** up a great thing that even with great rankings some still manage to be bad or no better than mediocre. So...Rankings matter...except when they dont.