This was a good read and proves what many of us thought during Brock’s time here - the coaching he received was an absolute disservice to him and his primary asset as a QB, his mind. Once he received advanced QB training he’s excelling again. Not sure why Coach Gordon was not shown the door as well.
49ers - Brock Purdy - Still and Always #1
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According to the article, on the quarterback cognitive skills test, Purdy was rated as an NFL starting quarterback. I think if the 49ers will continue to use him in a way that allows him to be himself, that he'll show the kind of talent that he has and then who knows where that will end up.
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The hype is so awesome. The Super Bowl talk is insane. That’s sports talk, shock jock stuff. He hasn’t made a start yet.
…. if he did though…. My god…
If he just has a solid outing tomorrow it might set the stage for a really solid backup career which is my dream job outside of being on an NFL scout team or Costco worker bee (if pay were way better).
You are taking too big a leap on this issue. Keep in mind that the QB Collective needs to advertise so they are going to squeeze as much out of this as they can. That doesn't automatically mean that Brock didn't receive any coaching at ISU. There is a massive difference in training between a student athlete and a professional athlete. One trains between classes, the other spends the entire day at it.
There is a cost/resource benefit that college coaches must decide when it comes to athletes. No difference than when you see future NBA players spend years in college with bad shooting mechanics. Coaches only have so much time to work with players, and there isn't time to breakdown and rebuild a QBs throwing mechanics and still win games.
Maybe Brock didn't get enough coaching at ISU, I can't say one way or another. But you can't claim he didn't just based on how much better he got after leaving Iowa State.
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@guitarchitect7 can you change the thread title? Brick by brick my eyes are about to start bleeding.
Played Purdy against Brady in Madden 23 last night, he won and put up some amazing numbers. Got a good feeling about tomorrow
Brock regressed as a QB during his 4 yrs at ISU. His QBR was highest his freshman year, bottomed out his Junior yr, and moved slightly Sr yr (but still lower than Fr and So years). QB coaching at ISU is most certainly a problem and we continued to see that with Deckers this year.
I am really glad Brock found someplace to give him the guideance and training he needed to fullfil his dream to become an NFL QB as he did not get that here.
So he's getting NFL coaching for the NFL...and got college coaching for college ball?
Did you ever notice that there's a whole bunch of players that had insanely good college careers but didn't stick in the NFL, or vice versa?
If Purdy had ascending QBR every year at ISU there's a good chance he'd be about where he is. Heck last week on one of the TD passes his footwork looked very similar to his college days.
I would also maybe check out who he had available his freshman year to bail out on long passes that he didn't have after that.
I'm getting really nervous that he's going to lay an egg tomorrow.
Well history as ISU fans says insert the nut cup and remember your ear plugs for the office Monday morning.
Purdy did not regress throughout his career here. I wish people would stop saying that. He led the team to a big 12 championship game and fiesta bowl win his junior year.
Believe it or not defensive coaches get paid to scout players and generate game plans to stop players. It’s incredibly hard to have sustained success. And he did.
We also put a lot more on his shoulders as his career progressed because he could handle it.
He had his best receiver corps as a freshman and sophomore.
Believe it or not defensive coaches get paid to scout players and generate game plans to stop players. It’s incredibly hard to have sustained success. And he did.
We also put a lot more on his shoulders as his career progressed because he could handle it.
He had his best receiver corps as a freshman and sophomore.
Too logical and not enough 'what happened after that first game against a bad Okie State defense that didn't have film on him!?'.
He just needs to not turn the ball over (or maybe only once, and preferably not in a ball busting situation). If he does that, he had a great start.
So you are saying other teams coaches can plan and coach their teams up but ours cannot or did not? You are implying that only the defense side can plan and improve and the offense stays stagnant. Brock had 2 NFL TE and and NFL running back with him. He had the resources but not the coaching.
Yeah and he barely mustered up 10,000 yards of offense in his career and a 15-1 conf home record. Total regression I know
If you read the article my comments are based on it was widely accepted within NFL scouting he did not have the skills needed for success. I commend him for going and getting advanced coaching to correct his flaws. One of the most interesting ones was stated as having too large of quads - which also coincided with a new SC coach. Maybe one of several bullet points on why SC coach was let go as well.
Here's a very good article about who Brock Purdy is and his journey from a celebrated Arizona high school football player to starter in the NFL. It's actually pretty accurate, going from his bout with mono in high school through his days with us. Even got some quotes from his high school football coach.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...dy-journey-mr-irrelevant-starting-quarterback
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...dy-journey-mr-irrelevant-starting-quarterback
Maybe, but I think SF is going to make it really simple for him. I'd guess they're just going to run the ball a bunch and rely on the defense - I'd be surprised if he threw it more than 15 times. Unless he gets in a rhythm early, then they may let it rip.
This is a good debate on the caliber of ISU’s QB coaching. If I had to guess Gordon and crew do the requisite coaching on mechanics, technique, etc but nothing special. Then you take a kid like Purdy who was a prolific QB at a large high school and had a lot of personal training coming up and the ISU coaches may have purposefully decided not to tinker. Hard to blame them given Brock’s auspicious start.
I think the big area where Brock needed more coaching in college was avoiding the big mistake. Plays like the batted pass vs Clemson, the spinning pick 6 at TCU, the strip sack scoop and score at OU. Those are a guy trying too hard or being reckless rather than issues with mechanics or technique. Hopefully Brock learned from those mistakes at ISU and avoids them with the Niners.
I think the big area where Brock needed more coaching in college was avoiding the big mistake. Plays like the batted pass vs Clemson, the spinning pick 6 at TCU, the strip sack scoop and score at OU. Those are a guy trying too hard or being reckless rather than issues with mechanics or technique. Hopefully Brock learned from those mistakes at ISU and avoids them with the Niners.