Scheelhasse oc

[spierceisu]

Seriously, people think a ST coach is going to make a kid stop missing FG? These kickers have been in camps with experts in the mechanics of kicking. There’s not a GD thing a special teams coach is going to do for kicker mechanics. It’s like when our fans think the head basketball coach is responsible for making a guy a good three point shooter. This isn’t youth sports.

Unless the ST coach is a former kicker, he is going to know less about kicking mechanics than 99% of college kickers. They are there to figure out how to cover kicks, protect the punter and set up returns. The ST coach isn’t there to correct kicker mechanics.

All of the things you mentioned (cover kicks, protect the punter, and setup returns) are all things we struggled with. I would think maybe a ST coordinator would have some sort of idea on how kicking/punting should work. I know a kicker needs to do his part, but there may be mechanics done wrong that will fix some issues.

 

[MugNight]

Went back and listened to CW Pod with Nate from Feb 2022. It’s a bit dated as far as expectations for this season, but it gives great insight into his journey into coaching and experience climbing the ranks. He’s obviously a humble, intelligent guy with a good head on his shoulders. I see why players and recruits like him.

I’d love to hear a follow up pod with him about his vision for the O when the dust settles and wounds are less fresh.

 

[joefrog]

Honestly, if you put a headset on a potato you'll probably get better results than we had this year. I trust the players' instincts to choose better plays on the fly than Manning to deliver from the sidelines.

That's something I just said to my wife. Realistically, how many formations and plays does a team really use?

Why do the look to the sideline thing?

Why not simply trust your QB to call the play, or audible at the line into something they think would work better?

I would have to think it would really help the pace and rhythm of an offense. And be more fun for the players.

 

[CyLyte2]

Many are jaded because they were frustrated after last year and fed a lot of promises about what was going to change and they didn’t get any of it. Yes, execution sucked, but they knew they weren’t being put in a position to succeed, voiced those concerns, and were promised x and o changes that didn’t materialize. That’s what started to fracture the offensive room.

Sounds like we need more players to enter the portal.

 

[CyLyte2]

That's something I just said to my wife. Realistically, how many formations and plays does a team really use?

Why do the look to the sideline thing?

Why not simply trust your QB to call the play, or audible at the line into something they think would work better?

I would have to think it would really help the pace and rhythm of an offense. And be more fun for the players.

This is one of the dumber things I’ve read here.

 

[3TrueFans]

That's something I just said to my wife. Realistically, how many formations and plays does a team really use?

Why do the look to the sideline thing?

Why not simply trust your QB to call the play, or audible at the line into something they think would work better?

I would have to think it would really help the pace and rhythm of an offense. And be more fun for the players.

lol just let the QB call all the plays at the line! This is top tier joefrog.

 

[joefrog]

It’s also disgusting to see people on here talk smack out of previous CMC quotes that they swallowed hook line and sinker before.

Such as 5* culture, ******** programs care about 6-6, fall in love the process and the process will love you back.

All great quotes. I think people on here have been so disrespectful of this program despite it being as good as it has ever been for the last 6 years or so.

I want to punch some of these posters in the face.

To be fair, some of CMC's comments this year were absolutely insulting.

He's the one that didn't try anything new, just focused on execution, when it was apparent that wasn't going to work.

 

[joefrog]

This is one of the dumber things I’ve read here.

Ah yes.

Imagine trusting your QB who has been in the program for 3 years.

The pause and sideline stare is way more fun.

 

[LAClone]

Ah yes.

Imagine trusting your QB who has been in the program for 3 years.

The pause and sideline stare is way more fun.

And effective! Don't forget effective.

 

[LtRaczack]

And effective! Don't forget effective.

Toyota sign signals indicate run from shotgun on 3rd and 1, repeat same play if conversion fails.

 

[exCyDing]

That's something I just said to my wife. Realistically, how many formations and plays does a team really use?

Why do the look to the sideline thing?

Why not simply trust your QB to call the play, or audible at the line into something they think would work better?

I would have to think it would really help the pace and rhythm of an offense. And be more fun for the players.

They do that look to the side thing because the coaching staff in the box has a far superior view of the defense's personnel and alignment than the QB does on the field, and can adjust the play as needed.

Trotting your QB out there to call his own plays and make his own audibles hasn't really been a thing since the 60s, if not earlier.

 

[Cyclad]

I’ll share some more thoughts from current players (not naming them of course) when I get a chance. But, there are mixed emotions though. All happy for him as a person and someone they respect, but a lot of concerns and reservations about how many changes will be seen day to day based on what they’ve seen and experienced.

That’s depressing

 

[bozclone]

Many are jaded because they were frustrated after last year and fed a lot of promises about what was going to change and they didn’t get any of it. Yes, execution sucked, but they knew they weren’t being put in a position to succeed, voiced those concerns, and were promised x and o changes that didn’t materialize. That’s what started to fracture the offensive room.

I just think when things go poorly it is easy to point the finger at others and not take responsibility yourself. It sounds like there are bridges that need to be repaired and maybe we need some new leaders to step up on offense. I also think I would be looking to the transfer portal to bring in competition at all offensive positions. The offense looked like a lot of players way too comfortable in their playing time.

 

[CF_Cyclone]

I'll know what kind of OC he is when we have our first 4th down and less than a yard. If we go shogun and snap it back 5 yards now needing 6 yards to get the first down, I won't be impressed. However, if we go under center, nut-up, put a hat on a hat and push our way to a first down, I'll have more r

If the team doesn't have the OL to line up hat to hat with the defense it doesn't help to be right up on them. I do feel it is better to line up under center, but I do realize that there are times it is better to line up in the pistol formation. With the QB back off the line it is easier for them to see how the defense is lined up and make adjustments if necessary. No matter what the lineup is you need an OL that can move the DL enough to get there. Personally I would like to see them roll out to give the QB and option to run it in, pitch out, or if a receiver is open pass it, when we are in short yardage, especially close to the end zone. Spread the defense out a little, then if we do decide to go straight up the middle they need to think about about stacking the block too much.

 

[LtRaczack]

I wonder if CMC is going to formally adopt NS as that was mentioned on WRNL with the Brian Ferentz OC option.

 

[ClonesTwenty1]

Many are jaded because they were frustrated after last year and fed a lot of promises about what was going to change and they didn’t get any of it. Yes, execution sucked, but they knew they weren’t being put in a position to succeed, voiced those concerns, and were promised x and o changes that didn’t materialize. That’s what started to fracture the offensive room.

So it’s possible CMC hired a “yes man” and always wants a “yes man” to run his offense?

 

[IceCyIce]

Scheelhaase should also be demanding that special teams be addressed. It is in the offense's best interest they can count on the FG unit to be nearly automatic when the offense gets to the red zone. It is also in their best interest that they can have the punt, kickoff and return teams not put them at a disadvantage in the field position battle.

Good point if we make a couple more field goals Manning is probably still here.

 

[LtRaczack]

So it’s possible CMC hired a “yes man” and always wants a “yes man” to run his offense?

“Run from shotgun on third and one.”
“Yes.”

“Throw a 2-4 yard crossing route on 3 and 12.”
“Yes.”

“I recommend we roll out the QB to the right and run a deep post with two receivers on 15 yard crossing routes.”
“It’s first down, it must be a running play. Inside run right or left or up the gut.”
“Yes.”

“It’s fourth and inches I think we can fall forward for a first down on their 37 yard line.”
“We punt.”
“Yes.”

 

[LtRaczack]

“Run from shotgun on third and one.”
“Yes.”

“Throw a 2-4 yard crossing route on 3 and 12.”
“Yes.”

“I recommend we roll out the QB to the right and run a deep post with two receivers on 15 yard crossing routes.”
“It’s first down, it must be a running play. Inside run right or left or up the gut.”
“Yes.”

“It’s fourth and inches I think we can fall forward for a first down on their 37 yard line.”
“We punt.”
“Yes.”

I agree it is dumb.

 

[Cyclonepride]

I think the post was perceived wrong by many. There is cautiousness and some hope.

The concerns largely revolve around those that wonder IF the changes will be enough. The scheme is going to remain the same (they’ve been told) so the comments I hear (via texts) were questioning if Nate will have much more leeway to change things up in game given where the instructions have come from. As one said “An OC needs to be more than coordinator in title” and it’s a legit concern in if that will be the case. Some of the players have had one on ones and have had mixed promises on direction.

Example of concern - How certain positions are utilized - TEs and RBs primarily, as well as if QB rollouts and mobility will be allowed.

I’ve also heard a few that are ecstatic and think things will improve without hesitation.

After that kind of year for the offense, I would think it would be fairly normal to be both skeptical of a change that may not be a huge one and also a bit insecure about how they might fit into that change.

An offense that grinds away time (while scoring somewhat consistently) isn't revolutionary at all, but has been proven an effective way to win games. I think it could provide significant change though, with just a touch more aggression and unpredictability. And of course, execution.

Like any situation, I think the players will have to see those changes in action to get totally on board with them. That's pretty normal.