Hawkeyes whining about postseason baseball

That went right over your head. Everytime someone starts a thread about college baseball someone has to post about bringing back ISU baseball. The link where they talk about moving back the start of baseball season was the prime opportunity.

I thought the sarcasm was clear in my post.
I wasn't sure where you were going with that since I didn't know that there was that quick of a trigger for posting "Bring back ISU baseball." I do remember seeing a thread where it was clear that it's a tired argument with the current ISU financial situation.
 
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The Hawks have a decent baseball team. Other then that, **** Iowa
Heller is a hell of a baseball coach, and EIU is his dream job, he is going no where. He started at Upper Iowa, then moved to UNI, when they dropped the program, he moved to S. Illinois I believe before EIU hired him.
He has won everywhere he has coached and was 2nd in line for the job when they hired the guy before him.

Now with ISU and UNI not having teams, he can bring in the best players from Iowa without any competition, and continue to build up the program. It also helps that every other school in the conference, has the same weather conditions, no school gets an advantage by playing in warmer weather than the rest of the conference. It comes done to talent and coaching, not whether is snowing or not.
 
Yeah, that's a good point. They are plenty north and get lots of rain in the winter, but of course they don't get as cold. Would be interesting to see an analysis of how they have been able to be so consistently good.
Corvallis average high in February is 53 degrees with a low of 37. They average 13 days of rain in February.

Iowa City's February average high is 35 which is actually colder than Corvallis' average low. East Lansing's average high is 33.
 
Corvallis average high in February is 53 degrees with a low of 37. They average 13 days of rain in February.

Iowa City's February average high is 35 which is actually colder than Corvallis' average low. East Lansing's average high is 33.
With an average of 15 dry (or drier?) days in February in Corvallis, it seems like that may make for more playable weather than the upper midwest which may have some warmer days, but not enough.
 
With an average of 15 dry (or drier?) days in February in Corvallis, it seems like that may make for more playable weather than the upper midwest which may have some warmer days, but not enough.
Iowa City averages 4 days of rain. I didn't have data on how many days of snow. East Lansing averages 5 days of rain. So precipitation would probably have a similar affect on being able to play in the upper midwest.

53 degrees v. 35 or 33 is a huge spread when you are talking about playing baseball.
 
Iowa City averages 4 days of rain. I didn't have data on how many days of snow. East Lansing averages 5 days of rain. So precipitation would probably have a similar affect on being able to play in the upper midwest.

53 degrees v. 35 or 33 is a huge spread when you are talking about playing baseball.
Oh yeah, an 18-20 degree difference at those temperatures is huge. I just remembered there were a few warmer than average days in Ames where you could maybe play baseball when I was in Ames. But those were far outnumbered by the colder days.
 
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What can you do outside that you can't do in an indoor baseball facility? Jack bomb home runs without hitting a ceiling? The warm weather excuse is a pretty poor one IMO. If it is a matter of being able to afford a state of the art indoor baseball facility then I suppose I could kind of see that.
 
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What can you do outside that you can't do in an indoor baseball facility? Jack bomb home runs without hitting a ceiling? The warm weather excuse is a pretty poor one IMO. If it is a matter of being able to afford a state of the art indoor baseball facility then I suppose I could kind of see that.
I always thought it was kids growing up in warm weather states could play year round, more than a college competitiveness issue. Most high schools and club teams up north don't have comparable conditions to being able to play outside year roundish.
 
What can you do outside that you can't do in an indoor baseball facility? Jack bomb home runs without hitting a ceiling? The warm weather excuse is a pretty poor one IMO. If it is a matter of being able to afford a state of the art indoor baseball facility then I suppose I could kind of see that.
I doubt many schools have a sufficient indoor baseball facility, but I don't know everything that goes into that.
 
Iowa City averages 4 days of rain. I didn't have data on how many days of snow. East Lansing averages 5 days of rain. So precipitation would probably have a similar affect on being able to play in the upper midwest.

53 degrees v. 35 or 33 is a huge spread when you are talking about playing baseball.
I wish I had these numbers when I called into a radio show and was trying to explain how even though Oregon State was northern, it didn't deal with the harsh winters that you get in the midwest and in the northeast. The host kept saying that it was a "northern" issue and I didn't have a good response to that since I thought maybe the rain in Oregon made it just as hard to play baseball.
 
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I always thought it was kids growing up in warm weather states could play year round, more than a college competitiveness issue. Most high schools and club teams up north don't have comparable conditions to being able to play outside year roundish.

Correct.

I thought when ISU and especially when UNI dropped baseball, Iowa would ascend and be a consistent team because they'd really be able to get everybody from Iowa.

There isn't enough talent here. If you look at Oregon State's roster it's all kinds from California and Oregon. Our best softball players are all basically from California.
 
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Correct.

I thought when ISU and especially when UNI dropped baseball, Iowa would ascend and be a consistent team because they'd really be able to get everybody from Iowa.

There isn't enough talent here. If you look at Oregon State's roster it's all kinds from California and Oregon. Our best softball players are all basically from California.
There is enough talent in the state to put a very Competitive team out of the field, not national championship level, but a lot better than what we have been producing until lately.

Take the best 3 to 5 players from the state tournament teams in softball, pick the best of the JC programs in the state like IHCC and ISU could put a very good team on the field.

The feeling I have always gotten from talking to high school coaches in the state is the ISU softball ignores the states talent pool and tries to bring in kids from out west, that are generally not any better than those we have in state.
 
I love watching Iowa baseball fans come out of the woodwork as if they have followed the team at all. When I lived out on the east coast I followed ACC and SEC baseball really close. Iowa's RPI is garbage because the B1G is garbage. You can't just compare W's and L's against the ACC and SEC teams that snuck in to the tournament like the Chad's of the world are doing. LOL it's not an apples to apples comparison.
 
There is enough talent in the state to put a very Competitive team out of the field, not national championship level, but a lot better than what we have been producing until lately.

Take the best 3 to 5 players from the state tournament teams in softball, pick the best of the JC programs in the state like IHCC and ISU could put a very good team on the field.

The feeling I have always gotten from talking to high school coaches in the state is the ISU softball ignores the states talent pool and tries to bring in kids from out west, that are generally not any better than those we have in state.

Iowa isn't retaining the top talent and they never will. If you have a chance to go play somewhere warm you absolutely do it.
 
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Don’t bad mouth Heller, he’s as knowledgeable and dedicated to the game as anyone I‘ve ever met. Rick puts a well prepared smart product on the field. Probably a matter of time before he gets poached by a bigger better program.
I have a friend that played for him at UNI. He can't speak highly enough about the guy. Heller knows how to coach baseball as well as anyone as far as I'm concerned.
 

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