2022 Recruiting/Transfer Class

I'd think he'd announce if he was reclassifying pretty soon and not wait until June or July.
Just curious, why is that?

I think teams get more desperate the later it gets. Several programs may be inclined to pass now. And with “NIL” money, scholarship numbers do not matter as much anymore.
 
I suppose Council is looking at blue bloods?

A lot of betting on upside scenario with AJG being next to backcourt guards of Williams, Holmes, Gabe, and Grill. We could squeeze in another guard/wing and add AJG as 14 if he decides late to return.

Bates is an intriguing prospect, when healthy, but give me three perimeter players over having 4-5 forwards, 3 of which have been limited on offense, the other at EKU.
I would take Bates in a heart beat. Him and Ward can split 40 minutes, and even play along side each other for a few minutes. They're both very elite defensively!!
 
I would take Bates in a heart beat. Him and Ward can split 40 minutes, and even play along side each other for a few minutes. They're both very elite defensively!!
Splitting the 40 minutes of the 5 spot is why, although he’s an intriguing prospect, I’d either give him Jones spot or go 14 to sign him.

Are you confident enough in Williams, AJG, Holmes, and Gabe is an improvement over last year to use a scholarship to improve 20 minutes at the 5? Imo that is betting a lot on Williams and Holmes improving and maintaining, respectively. If Bates is that much better than Ward, and stays healthy, he’s getting 30 minutes. Which means Ward’s either not playing much, and/or we have 3-5 guys at the 4. Plus Jones. The front court should be improved, but mostly just better at the same things, with 5 scholarships for 2 positions. It would be an amazing sell by TJ, that’s for sure.

If everything goes as hoped, I see it. But normally I’d rather have “too many” guards than too many forwards.
 
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Splitting the 40 minutes of the 5 spot is why, although he’s an intriguing prospect, I’d either give him Jones spot or go 14 to sign him.

Are you confident enough in Williams, Holmes, and Gabe to use a scholarship to improve 20 minutes at the 5? If he’s that much better than Ward, then Ward’s either not playing much, or we have 3-5 guys at the 4. Plus Jones.
It'd likely be
4. King/Kunz
5. Ward/Bates

If we aren't going to have a team full of offensive threats, then best fill them with elite defenders.

In a perfect world.we get another Guard that can score, but I think Holmes, Williams and Green can more then fill the void of IZB and Hunter. Green is a proven scorers so he can easily step in and take IZB's spot. I also don't think he is "one way dependant" in reference to IZB only being able to score going to his left.
 
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You have a bizarre definition of “starter-level”, but whatever. I doubt TJ is recruiting over Grill.
The only thing about Grill is his ball handling! If you watch he doesn’t like to hold on to it very long gets rid of it quickly even when he’s shooting! He’s not one to dribble very long either! Needs to work on that part of his game!
 
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The only thing about Grill is his ball handling! If you watch he doesn’t like to hold on to it very long gets rid of it quickly even when he’s shooting! He’s not one to dribble very long either! Needs to work on that part of his game!
Agreed. I think he gets far more breathing room to shoot with if he adds a bit of a threat handling the ball, even a little next year.
 
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The only thing about Grill is his ball handling! If you watch he doesn’t like to hold on to it very long gets rid of it quickly even when he’s shooting! He’s not one to dribble very long either! Needs to work on that part of his game!
And if Gabe were a 40% 3P shooter on 170 attempts, we’re a much better offense a year ago. I’m also adding Kunc post moves and Williams a 3P shot to the wish list.
 
I'm also hearing it's looking like Holmes, AJG, and Bates are going to be who fills the final 3 schollies.

Since I know some of you really enjoy hearing from me

Bates is the biggest question mark, but he is in town tomorrow I believe.

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Torvik bubble team

Williams - Green, King/Lipsey
AJ Green - Grill/Gabe/King
Holmes - Gabe/Grill, Watson
Jaz/King - Watson
Bates - Ward, Jones

6'5, 6'4", 6'4", 6'8", 6'11" for your starting lineup... That's 9 players expecting major minutes. AJ Green would play 35+. Gabe vs Grill for meaningful PT IMO. 8 is a nice rotation over 8 doesn't really work or happen often. Robert Jones is reduced to foul trouble duties. Freshman likely don't play unless Gabe doesn't return

Remember the Prohm 2020/21 lineups with Tyler Harris (5'10"), Tre Jackson (6') and Rasir Bolton(6'2"), Javon (6'6") and Solo (6'6")
 
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Torvik bubble team

Williams - Green, King/Lipsey
AJ Green - Grill/Gabe/King
Holmes - Gabe/Grill, Watson
Jaz/King - Watson
Bates - Ward, Jones

6'5, 6'4", 6'4", 6'8", 6'11" for your starting lineup... That's 9 players expecting major minutes. AJ Green would play 35+. Gabe vs Grill for meaningful PT IMO. 8 is a nice rotation over 8 doesn't really work or happen often. Robert Jones is reduced to foul trouble duties. Freshman likely don't play unless Gabe doesn't return

Remember the Prohm 2020/21 lineups with Tyler Harris (5'10"), Tre Jackson (6') and Rasir Bolton(6'2"), Javon (6'6") and Solo (6'6")
Where did Torvik rate last year's team preseason?
 
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Torvik bubble team

Williams - Green, King/Lipsey
AJ Green - Grill/Gabe/King
Holmes - Gabe/Grill, Watson
Jaz/King - Watson
Bates - Ward, Jones

6'5, 6'4", 6'4", 6'8", 6'11" for your starting lineup... That's 9 players expecting major minutes. AJ Green would play 35+. Gabe vs Grill for meaningful PT IMO. 8 is a nice rotation over 8 doesn't really work or happen often. Robert Jones is reduced to foul trouble duties. Freshman likely don't play unless Gabe doesn't return

Remember the Prohm 2020/21 lineups with Tyler Harris (5'10"), Tre Jackson (6') and Rasir Bolton(6'2"), Javon (6'6") and Solo (6'6")
Interesting starting point. Hard for these tools to account for fit.

What’s the drop off from Council to Holmes? Or Bates to Basile
 
I'm also hearing it's looking like Holmes, AJG, and Bates are going to be who fills the final 3 schollies.

Since I know some of you really enjoy hearing from me

Bates is the biggest question mark, but he is in town tomorrow I believe.
No matter what’s being said here I appreciate the information or perhaps false hope
 

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