I love Brock Purdy but Dekkers has every single physical advantage over him. He isn't going to break his records but his ceiling is a level above Brock.
Throwing downfield needs more that Dekkers arm
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I don't think next year is going to be about physical tools at QB. By all accounts, Dekkers has a gun. I'm excited to see how he performs under the lights when the pressure is on. I'm excited to see how he performs as a leader. It is a big jump going from backup QB to face of the program. I hope he hits it out of the park and he takes this program to another level.
Sample size way too small for that statement. But it was madding to watch Purdy back up into pressure.
if he has a higher ceiling and more physical advantages he should be able to break single season records.
Threads like this are going to make next season really tough for some fans.
I'm interested in Dekkers as much as the next guy, but you guys are freaking nuts if you think he'll be an upgrade to Purdy. Maybe eventually he will be. But he's taken maybe 100 snaps at a collegiate level?
I'm interested in Dekkers as much as the next guy, but you guys are freaking nuts if you think he'll be an upgrade to Purdy. Maybe eventually he will be. But he's taken maybe 100 snaps at a collegiate level?
How many are saying he’ll be an upgrade from the beginning?
One could argue Purdy was better than what Kempt could give us in 2018. The staff let him use his scrambling skills , talent kempt did not have. A lot will depend on the OC and staff imo.
Agree.
I think its normal for fans to hope that the back up is better... that is always the case (unless you have a heisman winner starting). You see something in limited playing time, wonder if he can do that all season. I don't think people expect Dekkers to be better than Purdy game 1. If we are lucky, maybe he will be better in time (is that the end of next season, 2 seasons from now, who knows?). Maybe he will never be as good as Purdy was at managing the offense.
To me, Purdy did what was asked, and put us in a position to win games. He was not an elite QB that stepped on the field and carried us to wins. He utilized the play makers around him, and gave us a chance to win games. That is what you need from a QB - but it takes a good QB to do this. If you are really lucky, you will find a guy that can do all of that plus take teams on game winning drives and make it look easy - this is elite level play that is very difficult to find.
In the end, it comes down to finding a QB that can do what this staff is asking them to do... 1) Take care of the football, 2) Read the Def, know your answers to that defense, 3) take what the Def gives you (get through your progressions, hit the best one in rhythm). If you are really good at this and make accurate throws in rhythm you will get your chance at the occasional shot play. But the key is, to do this within the scheme.
This staff has had more success than any other at ISU. So, I won't be critical of their style. However, they play a very conservative on both sides of the ball. I don't think the coaching style paired well with Purdy's strengths/weaknesses (imho). Dekkers can be more successful, but it will depend on his ability to play within the scheme not on his physical tools. The tools are great to have, but you have to be able to play in the pocket, read the def, and make great decisions first, then the tools can take you to the next level.
Way off topic for this thread, but holy horse-collar tackle by Bob Sanders on Danielson at around the 18:00 mark of the vid. Ouch. Back when it was legal I guess.
Even though Purdy had plateaued a bit by this season, I would be surprised if Dekkers gives us consistent performances at Senior-Brock Purdy levels next season. He will have games where he looks like doggy doo, but will probably also have games where he looks like our savior as well. And a lot of inbetween more than anything.
Purdy had games where he looked like doggy doo. That was part of the deal. Dekkers will be just fine. He’s got a lot more honey badger in him than Purdy did and personally I like that.
I am not bagging on Brock but Seneca Wallace is hands down the best ISU QB. We complain about last year's OL performance, Seneca played behind a LOT worse OL with not near the weapons Brock had.
Some guys translate better to CFB than the NFL and Seneca was a GREAT CFB player and a solid pro. If he had played for an elite team everyone would have known how good Seneca was. Can you imagine if Seneca played behind the OL Brad Banks played behind that same year? Seneca would have won the Hesiman EASILY.
Were we freaking nuts to think Purdy would be an upgrade on Kyle Kempt?
100? Not even close. A typical game is about 60 offensive snaps.
…and then people will be complaining that Hunter had a better OL and WR’s than Brock did, so it’s not a “good” comparison.
I think he should be more durable than Purdy too. It seems like there were times (especially last year) where we hesitated to run him to prevent the physical toll, even though that added another dimension to our offense.
I find this interesting:
Purdy as a Jr. and Sr.: 69% comp.; 238 ypg; 1.6 TD: Int; 146 Rtg
Kempt in his year as primary starter: 66% comp.; 223 ypg; 5.0 TD: Int; 146 Rtg
Now, I'm not saying Kempt was as good as Purdy, and Purdy as a Soph was much better. But I don't think people would find it strange at all to say Dekkers would end up being an upgrade over Kempt, but it seems outrageous by some to think Dekkers can't be better than Purdy as a Jr. and Sr.
It is not a realistic expectation for a new starter to come in and be as good as a guy in his 3rd and 4th year as a starter. However, we might be pleasantly surprised. We may be sorely disappointed. Dekkers was highly rated, has some good physical tools, and has been in the program for a good amount of time.
How about m freshman Purdy is an upgrade over senior Purdy!
kempt did have similar passing rating after the staff neutered Purdy’s playmaking