This all makes me sad. I hate what has become with college athletics.
Report: OU & Texas reach out to join SEC
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Mostly but the others matter a little. Besides even before I would say our football history was better than UCONN. They don’t care about football and haven’t even played FBS football except for the past 20 years. I thought they dropped it entirely but apparently they just went independent.
People have said that we are in a good position because we have a lot of fans and eyeballs willing to stream games, but do we know this is true? We have a passionate fan base yes, and I think people are assuming passion is equivalent to large numbers for subscriptions, but have we actually compared our numbers to other schools? Does this data even exist in a form that is meaningful to the future of the delivery model? I'm not sure we have as big of an advantage here as we think.
History also doesn’t matter a ton. Current brand is the player here. Which is why now more than ever Matt Campbell needs to be given absolutely anything he wants to remain in Ames.
What is interesting about this move if it indeed happens is it is clearly about the SEC trying to breakaway from the NCAA, which is a thing that has been talked about for some time.
Now I spin this years down the road, but I wouldn’t exactly feel good if I was Vandy, Mississippi State or a school like that in the SEC or other major conferences. Because I wouldn’t put it past the ones controlling all of this to eventually want to trim this down even further and ideally just get all of the biggest brands together in one league (I.e top 25-30 programs) and basically be the minor league for the NFL.
These guys only care about money and to hell with tradition and life-long partnerships. They wouldn’t even need the SEC name so the big guns of Alabama, Florida, LSU, Georgia and now Texas and OU would basically opt to dissolve the SEC and form their own conference with discussions going on behind the scenes with ND, Ohio State, Michigan, etc.
Now I spin this years down the road, but I wouldn’t exactly feel good if I was Vandy, Mississippi State or a school like that in the SEC or other major conferences. Because I wouldn’t put it past the ones controlling all of this to eventually want to trim this down even further and ideally just get all of the biggest brands together in one league (I.e top 25-30 programs) and basically be the minor league for the NFL.
These guys only care about money and to hell with tradition and life-long partnerships. They wouldn’t even need the SEC name so the big guns of Alabama, Florida, LSU, Georgia and now Texas and OU would basically opt to dissolve the SEC and form their own conference with discussions going on behind the scenes with ND, Ohio State, Michigan, etc.
It’s not true. Look at how much our fan base ******* about a $5 ESPN Now subscription
Big 10 is full up on whipping boys, that’s their problem.
You can feel fine if you're in the lower echelon of the SEC. The upper echelon doesn't want to beat each other up and go .500 every year so they need punching bags.
Honest question - is there actual evidence that conferences care about AAU membership or is this something we latch onto because ISU is a member?
AAU membership is required to be admitted to the B1G.
That is more because of the false bill of goods they sold us to implement it. It was sold as consolidating all of our streaming services into one and keeping the same for everything else. That isn’t what they’ve done.
I also think that most of the complaints are about streaming itself vs the cost. Internet access isn’t there in a lot of the country yet. Sure in big cities it’s fine but even in the metro there are places with substandard internet access.
For now. But they don’t need those schools. They can eventually down the road all break off and create their own rules and playoffs, etc. and get a ton of money from some network or create their own. Whatever it is that’s the current outlook. It’s all about money not wins. Vandy and the like don’t do anything for them, so they will eventually be trimmed out in the future for this one 25-30 team minor league to the NFL that makes a ton of money and can pay players, create unions and CBAs, etc.
In the late 1980's there was a move by the Board of Regents to slim down ISU, SUI and UNI by merging some departments that were similar in mission and academics. One part of that plan was to eliminate the ISU journalism department and merge it with SUI. It looked like this was going to happen until the ISU faithful bombarded the Regents with all the reasons why it shouldn't. The Regents bought it and the result was a stronger more focused and now more successful J school at ISU.
The Board chair at the time told me personally that this person had never seen a more forceful or impassioned case for anything the Regents had ever considered.
In the past the Regents have responded to a thoughtful and strong case from ISU and that was before we became the largest school in the state with a crappy football program. Do we now believe that the Regents will allow this major, land-grant university to slip out of a P5 or a new P4 situation? Since we are the biggest school in the state and we enjoy AAU membership we may find they are in our court and do everything in their power to help ISU succeed and grow stronger.
I suggest a two pronged grass-roots PR campaign approach if Texas and Oklahoma leave: One to the legislature and one to the Regents. Voters still matter to legislators and the governor and the Regents are appointed by legislative officials.
BTW, will those legislatures in OK and TX allow this to happen without taking along OK State and Texas Tech. I think voters in those states may have something to say about this too.
Remember, we aren't the school that had to get a $50 million loan from the academic department to keep the athletic program alive this year.
The Board chair at the time told me personally that this person had never seen a more forceful or impassioned case for anything the Regents had ever considered.
In the past the Regents have responded to a thoughtful and strong case from ISU and that was before we became the largest school in the state with a crappy football program. Do we now believe that the Regents will allow this major, land-grant university to slip out of a P5 or a new P4 situation? Since we are the biggest school in the state and we enjoy AAU membership we may find they are in our court and do everything in their power to help ISU succeed and grow stronger.
I suggest a two pronged grass-roots PR campaign approach if Texas and Oklahoma leave: One to the legislature and one to the Regents. Voters still matter to legislators and the governor and the Regents are appointed by legislative officials.
BTW, will those legislatures in OK and TX allow this to happen without taking along OK State and Texas Tech. I think voters in those states may have something to say about this too.
Remember, we aren't the school that had to get a $50 million loan from the academic department to keep the athletic program alive this year.
Jfc, some of you guys are drama queens. We either get picked up by the Big 10 or the Big 12 still exists. You are right and it isn't viable long term then we get picked up by a Power 4 conference 8-10 years from now.
I've seen 55,000 people show up to JTS against teams like Kansas and Western Illinois when we were horrible with Paul Rhodes. So yeah, probably have to tear down the whole eastern side of the stadium just because we can't host Oklahoma once every 24 months.