Tough day for EIU hoops hopes

[BCClone]

He isn't comparing Iowa's success to WIsconsin's? He is just saying that you can build a program on non-nba players and on players that stay for 4 or more years. Wisconsin has proven that.

To answer your question, it appears he is.

 

[Cyinthenorth]

You're an idiot. This all started from @Cyinthenorth saying no program keeps more than a couple guys around for 4-5 years. Wisconsin basketball disagrees.

To think you cant build a program with 4-5 year guys is stupid. Look at all the mid majors every year that make the round of 32 or sweet 16 with guys that are not good enough for the NBA.

Yes, thank you for providing one example across a sport involving over 300 Division I programs. I am convinced it is normal and commonplace for programs to be built this way now.

 

[inCyteful]

You all act like building a program ranked #3 in the nation with 4 or 5 year players is a bad thing.

This is good for McCaffrey. Frankly, it's not surprising. Based on where the program was heading a few years ago I feared for his life. I am guessing he found a new level of motivation after a few 'meetings' around the dinner table with Margaret.

 

[inCyteful]

Yes, thank you for providing one example across a sport involving over 300 Division I programs. I am convinced it is normal and commonplace for programs to be built this way now.

Oh ****, Benji going all hypothetical again? This is getting old.

 

[JP4CY]

The last 8 years results for Wisconsin when an NCAA tournament was held:

First Round Loss
Did not make the tourney
Sweet 16
Sweet 16
Runner Up
Final Four
First Round Loss
Sweet 16

Well, that's now settled.

 

[BCClone]

This is good for McCaffrey. Frankly, it's not surprising. Based on where the program was heading a few years ago I feared for his life. I am guessing he found a new level of motivation after a few 'meetings' around the dinner table with Margaret.

And so far he has built a team. A program is when you have waves of players come through and success is sustained. Fran right now is riding Garza.

 

[IASTATE07]

And ISU does?

Was the topic not about building a program without NBA players? When Iowa State was good we didn't play good defense, but we had NBA guys on our roster.

 

[inCyteful]

Was the topic not about building a program without NBA players? When Iowa State was good we didn't play good defense, but we had NBA guys on our roster.

We have 1 player from ISU probably making more than every player from iowa over the last 5 years combined, regardless of their job.

I will grant though that iowa players tend to hold their own on getting twitter attention.

 

[Rebel]

Yes, thank you for providing one example across a sport involving over 300 Division I programs. I am convinced it is normal and commonplace for programs to be built this way now.

You said it was "completely unheard of" which isnt true.

Look at Wisconsin, Virginia, Xavier and a host of mid majors that have success with it.

 

[BCClone]

This rebel guy is the slowest of the trolls so far. At least we knew screw the clowns is/was one of us making the hawkeyes look bad. Rebel is at that level.

 

[JP4CY]

Maybe you can if you play defense. Iowa doesn't do that.

Wisconsin (and similarly Virginia both) play defense and a methodically slow and calculated offense.
Comparing Iowa to Wisconsin is laughable. Iowa gets up and down the floor and doesn't play defense.

 

[Rebel]

This is good for McCaffrey. Frankly, it's not surprising. Based on where the program was heading a few years ago I feared for his life. I am guessing he found a new level of motivation after a few 'meetings' around the dinner table with Margaret.

What is your definition of a "few years ago"?

 

[Rebel]

Oh ****, Benji going all hypothetical again? This is getting old.

The two things clear in the last 12 hours is you are very cranky and you have no clue what the word hypothetical means.

 

[inCyteful]

What is your definition of a "few years ago"?

Hypothetically? 3-5

what does that matter

He got whipped into shape

 

[inCyteful]

The two things clear in the last 12 hours is you are very cranky and you have no clue what the word hypothetical means.

you're the Igno ramous that takes every angle but addressing the actual question around here.

And I have already admitted that dealing with trolls with a mental age of 12 like you is annoying, I think I speak for every Cyfanatic on here in that regard. It is frustrating having trying to have adult conversations with piss ants like you dwelling here.

 

[Rebel]

Was the topic not about building a program without NBA players? When Iowa State was good we didn't play good defense, but we had NBA guys on our roster.

KenPom AdjD ranks when ISU was good:

2011-2012: 66
2012-2013: 123
2013-2014: 55
2014-2015: 59
2015-2016: 91
2016-2017: 42
2018-2019: 47



KenPom AdjD ranks when ISU was not good:

2017-2018: 143
2019-2020: 147

 

[Cyinthenorth]

We have 1 player from ISU probably making more than every player from iowa over the last 5 years combined, regardless of their job.

I will grant though that iowa players tend to get hold their own on getting twitter attention.

The Iowa MBB program has produced great car and insurance salesmen over the years as well.

Edit: And Jimmy Johns Managers

 

[JP4CY]

What is your definition of a "few years ago"?

Just glad we now know what your definition of first round is.

 

[BCClone]

KenPom AdjD ranks when ISU was good:

2011-2012: 66
2012-2013: 123
2013-2014: 55
2014-2015: 59
2015-2016: 91
2016-2017: 42
2018-2019: 47



KenPom AdjD ranks when ISU was not good:

2017-2018: 143
2019-2020: 147

Proving his point?

 

[Rebel]

Wisconsin (and similarly Virginia both) play defense and a methodically slow and calculated offense.
Comparing Iowa to Wisconsin is laughable. Iowa gets up and down the floor and doesn't play defense.

Try and keep up. Style of play wasnt the starting point of the conversation. It was this post:

I was going to say, nothing wrong with it exactly, but just completely unheard of in the modern era of college basketball. Teams might have 2 or 3 upperclassmen at a time, but to have 7 guys last that long in a program is rare.