Merged Covid Megathread
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Here's an article about the Pfizer one. Get that **** rolling for the people that I'm most afraid of getting sick.
Pfizer, BioNTech say their COVID-19 vaccine is more than 90% effective
Pfizer said its experimental vaccine was more than 90% effective in preventing COVID-19 based on initial data from a large study.www.yahoo.com
I wish I could multi emoji as I would give and 'Informative' and an 'Agree' to your sentiment to protect the most vulnerable first. CVS and Walgreens for nursing homes, assisted living and Medicare for those of us who are not in that CVS/Walgreens group are ready. Just need approval.
UK to get some of the Pfizer doses
www.reuters.com
UK says expects to receive 10 million doses of Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine this year
Britain expects to have 10 million doses of Pfizer/BioNTech's candidate COVID-19 vaccine available by the end of the year if regulators approve it, Prime Minister Boris Johnson's spokesman said on Monday, following positive clinical trial results.
UK "MAY" have reached peak of 2nd wave
www.thesun.co.uk
Covid deaths FALL on last week as 156 die in hope second peak is reached
CORONAVIRUS deaths and new cases in the UK have fallen on last week – raising hopes the second peak is finally beginning to slow. A further 156 Brits have died with the virus – down fro…
www.thesun.co.uk
One interesting wrinkle to the Pfizer covid vaccine is that is has to be stored at -94 F. There aren't any doctors offices that can do this and a lot of hospitals don't even have a freezer that goes this low. From what I have gathered, only like research hospitals and maybe the VA would be able to store and administer this vaccine. Having that low of a storage temperature really limits the availability of this one.
On the other hand, the Moderna one only has to be stored at -6 F, which any doctors office is capable of as this is the temp that MMR is stored at.
On the other hand, the Moderna one only has to be stored at -6 F, which any doctors office is capable of as this is the temp that MMR is stored at.
There's a business strategy aspect to it as well. There will likely be several competing vaccines ready between January and March. If Pfizer prebuilds millions of doses and are the first to be approved, they will get 100% of the market until they run out or another vaccine is approved and ready. It will be interesting to see how long it takes the mass general public gets access (excluding Healthcare workers, elderly, public safety, etc). This is all great news compared to last March when there was no confirmed timeline to a vaccine and starting from scratch.
Just brainstorming here. I'm wondering if facilities like Iowa Cold Storage, Des Moines Cold Storage, etc. wouldn't be able to install some ultra cold freezers on pretty short notice. That would enable them to act as ultra cold storage and distribution centers. It would fit in with their current business model and with their existing facilities. In looking at their facilities online, they have very sophisticated operations already in place.
I have to believe the USDA labs in Ames and places like that would have some storage capabilities that could handle those temps.
They still don’t know how long the protection lasts. I guess that’s what I’m most skeptical about.
Ya, that's something that has to be determined yet. Hopefully it would last as long as standard flu shots (keep our fingers crossed).
That is great that it could be stored at a cold storage or whatever, but how would that work to actually deliver the vaccine to people? Medical staff is already stretched thin to be pulled out of medical clinics to do vaccine drives at a random cold storage place.
Decided today we'll be skipping the large family Thanksgiving get together with the numbers being as bad as they are. Really hoping these vaccines work and are available to most of us next year; really tired of this pandemic.
It will require a concerted effort at the federal, state, and local levels to administer this effectively. That includes putting together the staffing personnel and distribution infrastructure.
True but even if it has a 9-12 month life (kind of like the flu shot) and it's administered to even a fraction of the population it would greatly reduce the number of people who actually have Covid at any given time who can spread it to others. This isn't going to be a magic wand to completely erase this virus since it will likely always be around at some capacity but the goal is to get it to a controllable level so we can resume some normalcy again.
I’m pretty sure I recall seeing that as part of operation Warp Speed the vaccine developers face far less exposure if they start mass production on a vaccine that ultimately isn’t distributed. i.e. the fed is insuring them to some degree. Also, the U.S. Army is going to be in charge of storage and distribution from what I understand.
You won't reasonably reach those temps with ammonia. With ammonia I wouldn't push much further than -60. Liquid CO2 wouldn't get you there either.
My understanding is that storage has to be at that cold of a temp. But it can be refrigerated for up to 5 days so it would only have to be restocked about 6 times a month.
That makes sense because there is no way to transport it if it had to be at -94 F permanently.
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