All players have? That's not true
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All players have? That's not true
You make some good points. Particularly regarding it being a state level issue. There can be finger pointing and outrage within the state of Iowa but once you leave the cozy confines of the state borders, or at least the Midwest, when something like this occurs in Iowa city (or if it would've happened in Ames) the majority of the country sees a spot or two in the news cycle and walks away just thinking IOWANS are racists. To a lot of people this is just flyover country whether we want to admit it or not. Stereotyping is wrong and in some ways is a bit similar to racism. I'm a Hawkeye fan and will never apologize for that but I am sorry for the fact that black student athletes came to the University I love and were made to feel uncomfortable or treated unfairly. What is happening right now is not good for the U of I's image but it's also not good for the entire state. Ames included.Of course we are going to poke fun at Iowa just as hoks will for any challenges we have.
This is way beyond a challenge and fun poking. This is a state level issue facing a state institution and young people. A bit more than bragging rights at stake on this pissing match.
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The entire clusterf#ck at eiu has NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING to do with anything in Ames, IA.You make some good points. Particularly regarding it being a state level issue. There can be finger pointing and outrage within the state of Iowa but once you leave the cozy confines of the state borders, or at least the Midwest, when something like this occurs in Iowa city (or if it would've happened in Ames) the majority of the country sees a spot or two in the news cycle and walks away just thinking IOWANS are racists. To a lot of people this is just flyover country whether we want to admit it or not. Stereotyping is wrong and in some ways is a bit similar to racism. I'm a Hawkeye fan and will never apologize for that but I am sorry for the fact that black student athletes came to the University I love and were made to feel uncomfortable or treated unfairly. What is happening right now is not good for the U of I's image but it's also not good for the entire state. Ames included.
If you don't think problems like this don't exist everywhere you're living with your head in the sand. And no I'm not talking about hawkeye/cyclone football teams. I mean everywhere. The OP said it was a state level issue and I agree.The entire clusterf#ck at eiu has NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING to do with anything in Ames, IA.
"SHINY OBJECT OVER HERE,......NO,,,HERE!!!!!"
Stupid effort at equivocation. Don't try again.
The entire clusterf#ck at eiu has NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING to do with anything in Ames, IA.
"SHINY OBJECT OVER HERE,......NO,,,HERE!!!!!"
Stupid effort at equivocation. Don't try again.
He is mentioned the seconded highest behind Doyle. Granted what was said about him isn't on the same level as the Doyle comments. However, my point still stands. Just because players don't mention you in their allegations (of which the primary of them are directed at Doyle), that does NOT mean the players support you, actively support you, let alone feel like you didn't know these things were going on under your watch. Thanks for linking the websitehttps://www.thegazette.com/subject/...hawkeyes-football-allegations-tweets-20200611
This maps out most of the allegations. You can scroll down to Kirk and see what was said specifically about him.
Hush Blackwell doesn't have any Iowa State alums on staff so no conflict of interest there. Also ISU's contracts with Hush Blackwell were for legal help regarding Title IX, not for a high-profile civil rights, racial bias, bullying investigation. Nice try, it's cool that you read the ISU Daily though.For all of the people who were criticizing Iowa’s choice of Husch Blackwell the other day...has this been discussed yet? Whoops.
“The Iowa State Daily reported in 2018that ISU paid Husch Blackwell $120,325 to provide legal help on three cases in 2017 and 2018. Two cases involved women who accused ISU of violating Title IX, the federal gender equity law, in their response to reported sexual assaults on or near campus.
In the third lawsuit, ISU’s former Title IX coordinator Robinette Kelley alleged Iowa State didn’t give her the proper authority and funding to investigate sex discrimination and sexual misconduct, the Daily reported. Kelley also said she was treated differently because she is a woman of color.
Kelley and ISU settled two related lawsuits for $125,000 in 2018, the ISU Daily reported.”
What's your point? There aren't 10 ISU alum on staff. Not even close to the same thing. Swing and missFor all of the people who were criticizing Iowa’s choice of Husch Blackwell the other day...has this been discussed yet? Whoops.
“The Iowa State Daily reported in 2018that ISU paid Husch Blackwell $120,325 to provide legal help on three cases in 2017 and 2018. Two cases involved women who accused ISU of violating Title IX, the federal gender equity law, in their response to reported sexual assaults on or near campus.
In the third lawsuit, ISU’s former Title IX coordinator Robinette Kelley alleged Iowa State didn’t give her the proper authority and funding to investigate sex discrimination and sexual misconduct, the Daily reported. Kelley also said she was treated differently because she is a woman of color.
Kelley and ISU settled two related lawsuits for $125,000 in 2018, the ISU Daily reported.”
JFC, that is what's wrong with you Hawk fans. You want to believe SO BADLY that KF had no idea any of this was going on so that your view of your golden child stays untainted. Head coaches are the biggest control freaks on the planet. They know every single thing that is going on in there program and with their players. If you wanna sit there with your head up your you know what and act like KF didn't know anything, then by all means go on. But you're absolutely wrong and everyone else who isn't a hawk fans knows thisDid he lie or how much did he actually know? I'm honestly curious because I think you are taking the path that Kirk Ferentz is guilty until proven innocent. I don't know why the players are so willing to forgive and move forward if he was deeply involved in all of this.
For all of the people who were criticizing Iowa’s choice of Husch Blackwell the other day...has this been discussed yet? Whoops.
“The Iowa State Daily reported in 2018that ISU paid Husch Blackwell $120,325 to provide legal help on three cases in 2017 and 2018. Two cases involved women who accused ISU of violating Title IX, the federal gender equity law, in their response to reported sexual assaults on or near campus.
In the third lawsuit, ISU’s former Title IX coordinator Robinette Kelley alleged Iowa State didn’t give her the proper authority and funding to investigate sex discrimination and sexual misconduct, the Daily reported. Kelley also said she was treated differently because she is a woman of color.
Kelley and ISU settled two related lawsuits for $125,000 in 2018, the ISU Daily reported.”
This was the worst attempt at trying to prove a point that I’ve seen yet.For all of the people who were criticizing Iowa’s choice of Husch Blackwell the other day...has this been discussed yet? Whoops.
“The Iowa State Daily reported in 2018that ISU paid Husch Blackwell $120,325 to provide legal help on three cases in 2017 and 2018. Two cases involved women who accused ISU of violating Title IX, the federal gender equity law, in their response to reported sexual assaults on or near campus.
In the third lawsuit, ISU’s former Title IX coordinator Robinette Kelley alleged Iowa State didn’t give her the proper authority and funding to investigate sex discrimination and sexual misconduct, the Daily reported. Kelley also said she was treated differently because she is a woman of color.
Kelley and ISU settled two related lawsuits for $125,000 in 2018, the ISU Daily reported.”
Hush Blackwell doesn't have any Iowa State alums on staff so no conflict of interest there. Also the contracts with Hush Blackwell were for legal help regarding Title IX, not for a high-profile civil rights, racial bias, bullying investigation. Nice try, it's cool that you read the ISU Daily though.
This was the worst attempt at trying to prove a point that I’ve seen yet.
Lol you tried
Husch Blackwell actually does have Iowa State alumni on its staff, so obviously there was a conflict of interest. And the article says that one of the accusers claimed that she was discriminated against because of her race, so Iowa State hired an all-white firm to investigate a claim of racial discrimination. I guess when Iowa does these things its bad, but when Iowa State does these things it’s “nothing to see here.” Funny how that works.
Why would Iowa State hire a firm that isn’t even in the top five or six firms in the Midwest?
Why would Iowa State hire a firm that isn’t even in the top five or six firms in the Midwest?
You really are THAT dumb, aren't you?.For all of the people who were criticizing Iowa’s choice of Husch Blackwell the other day...has this been discussed yet? Whoops.
“The Iowa State Daily reported in 2018that ISU paid Husch Blackwell $120,325 to provide legal help on three cases in 2017 and 2018. Two cases involved women who accused ISU of violating Title IX, the federal gender equity law, in their response to reported sexual assaults on or near campus.
In the third lawsuit, ISU’s former Title IX coordinator Robinette Kelley alleged Iowa State didn’t give her the proper authority and funding to investigate sex discrimination and sexual misconduct, the Daily reported. Kelley also said she was treated differently because she is a woman of color.
Kelley and ISU settled two related lawsuits for $125,000 in 2018, the ISU Daily reported.”