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Kirk Ferentz getting sued for being racist

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BryceC said:
Let me also say for all of the people who want or expect certain members of the Iowa staff fired, the players brought this up. They are the ones filing the complaints. They are the ones who really have the inside story on everything. And from the sounds of it, Daniels is leading the group of former players with nothing to lose who will evaluate, discuss, and make recommendations.

Like it or not IMO the program belongs to the players and former players. If they come out and decide to not recommend canning anybody, regardless of our personal feelings I think we should support whatever decision they come to.
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This is where I differ a little bit. Players and former players have a voice for sure, but so do fans and frankly so do students, faculty, etc. - whether they care about football or not - because for better or worse, that program is the most visible representation of their university.

It's not unlike when a beloved coach starts losing. Nobody ever "wants" the coach to be fired, least of all the players - because they love him more than anyone and are familiar with him. But someone has to step in and say this isn't sustainable or this isn't moving in the right direction anymore.

Imagine if it were an academic department chair accused of running the department like this. Or a professor who managed his classes that way. Or the campus police force. Can you imagine anyone else in any other situation surviving these kinds of allegations? Of course not.

And if people think these are the biased comments of a rival fan, I would argue that it probably benefits ISU more to have a severely crippled Ferentz remain than to start fresh.
 
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Trice said:
This is where I differ a little bit. Players and former players have a voice for sure, but so do fans and frankly so do students, faculty, etc. - whether they care about football or not - because for better or worse, that program is the most visible representation of their university.

It's not unlike when a beloved coach starts losing. Nobody ever "wants" the coach to be fired, least of all the players - because they love him more than anyone and are familiar with him. But someone has to step in and say this isn't sustainable or this isn't moving in the right direction anymore.

Imagine if it were an academic department chair accused of running the department like this. Or a professor who managed his classes that way. Or the campus police force. Can you imagine anyone else in any other situation surviving these kinds of allegations? Of course not.

And if people think these are the biased comments of a rival fan, I would argue that it probably benefits ISU more to have a severely crippled Ferentz remain than to start fresh.
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Regardless of whether or not any of these people get fired, it completely changes my perception of the Iowa Football program. Growing up an ISU fan I hated Iowa strictly because they were a rival of my favorite team, however I respected Ferentz and everything he's done there. Now, my perceptions have completely changed. I view them no differently than I view other schools that are run by power hungry slime balls.
 
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NorthCyd said:
Does it really matter? Doesn't he say in his statement he identified as white? Doesn't the discussion end there?
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Not sure why you're quoting me on this, but here is his statement:

It hurts, a deep pain, because being half-black raised white and white-presenting I wonder if I could have done something if I'd paid attention..."
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Statefan10 said:
Regardless of whether or not any of these people get fired, it completely changes my perception of the Iowa Football program. Growing up an ISU fan I hated Iowa strictly because they were a rival of my favorite team, however I respected Ferentz and everything he's done there. Now, my perceptions have completely changed. I view them no differently than I view other schools that are run by power hungry slime balls.
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I felt this way a long time ago regarding Barta, and Ferentz. Before the whole new Kirk, Kirk 2.0, or whatever version we are on now there were a lot of rumblings on his favoritism within the program. Kirk has always been above the program so honestly, none of this surprises me. Doyle is a gigantic POS and there is a 0% chance that Kirk didn't see any of this going on. Once again Kirk has had WAY too much control over there and it's not shocking that it has reared its ugly head again.
 
I think their stadium just got renamed to Kinnick-Slater Stadium. Now they'll claim that their stadium was the first in the nation to be named after a black athlete and that we just copied them.
 
BillBrasky4Cy said:
I felt this way a long time ago regarding Barta, and Ferentz. Before the whole new Kirk, Kirk 2.0, or whatever version we are on now there were a lot of rumblings on his favoritism within the program. Kirk has always been above the program so honestly, none of this surprises me. Doyle is a gigantic POS and there is a 0% chance that Kirk didn't see any of this going on. Once again Kirk has had WAY too much control over there and it's not shocking that it has reared its ugly head again.
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Well said. I think this is going to have a bigger impact on the program this time. I think more information will continue to flood in. We'll just have to see if anyone steps in for these decisions because I truly do not think Barta is going to do anything. These decisions may not end up being made by him though.
 
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