Kirk Ferentz getting sued for being racist

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It's a good piece. And as someone who has called him a propagandist in the past rather than a real reporter, he deserves credit for his work the last few days. He hasn't shied away from it.

But again, look at the tone here. Look at the benefit of the doubt Iowa gets. We're not even sure we know the full scope of this story yet and we're moving on to talk of reconciliation and setting an example for the nation.

There's no serious implication that Ferentz or his son - or Barta for that matter - should be in jeopardy of losing their jobs. There's no mention of the obvious suggestion that for every player who had the courage to speak up there are likely to be multiple more who didn't. There's no mention that Ferentz directly denied his own former players' and parents' accounts of what happened (who's lying?). And the focus stays on the accusations against Doyle when there are many fewer yet still specific allegations against both Ferentzes as well.

It's a crappy situation and you can only spin it so much, but even this story is written in the most favorable possible light toward Iowa.

The only justification I've seen so far for KF to be let go is that he's supposed to lead this thing. If there was a situation where he suspended a player for speaking up over racist statements, then I think that can be dealt with that listening and learning that has been talked about. But I haven't heard anything accusing KF of making racist statements directly, so I don't see him being tarnished in his players eyes.

It does remind me of a situation like Penn State. While the offense isn't as severe, it comes down to what a coach knows, should have known, and what their responsibility is for those under them.
 
I haven’t seen any stories attributing a pattern of similar actions or comments to Brian, only a handful of players saying that Brian was a problem.
Ought we call you a classy liar?
 
The only justification I've seen so far for KF to be let go is that he's supposed to lead this thing. If there was a situation where he suspended a player for speaking up over racist statements, then I think that can be dealt with that listening and learning that has been talked about. But I haven't heard anything accusing KF of making racist statements directly, so I don't see him being tarnished in his players eyes.

It does remind me of a situation like Penn State. While the offense isn't as severe, it comes down to what a coach knows, should have known, and what their responsibility is for those under them.


At the end of the day, it comes down to the person at the top. If you are the manager, HC, owner, and you allow someone to do these things and you did nothing about it (especially someone you hired yourself) then you are agreeing with the actions/statements. It is one thing if Kirk had heard somethings and when you go through doyle's personnel file you see disciplinary actions against him; then you know Kirk wasn't in unison with it. If you did nothing, but give him an award, then you are in agreement.
 
Doyle is gone. Just bc DP doesn't lead with it doesn't mean anything..lol. It will be talked about a lot this week.

Doyle isn't going to be with U of Iowa much longer.

I surely don't think there's much debate there, that is likely a done deal. The question is whether anything else comes of it. UofI and the Iowa media have done a great job steering this as a "Doyle" story, when it is much bigger than this, including things like disparity in suspensions. Based on the comments at their worst Ferentz was made aware but ignored it. At best players did not feel like things done by Doyle would be addressed and Ferentz would have Doyle's back. Not sure where they would get that idea, other than Ferentz giving the big double bird to everybody by honoring Doyle after he put a bunch of kids in the hospital.

Not sure why any of this is surprising. After the whole Satterfield and Everson debacle, nobody is really debating that KF made some mistakes, but whether these were just really bad decisions or a flat out cover up. He wouldn't even say that maybe they should've done things differently, but just held the line that he thought they handled it correctly and doubled down with his indignation that anyone would question his character. Because that happened at a time when Iowa had a lot of players getting in trouble with the law, that story quickly turned into one about KF needing to get discipline back in the program. And since he scolded the media about questioning his character, nobody really pushed much further on his actions, which a reasonable person could view as an attempt to cover up a sexual assault.

Whether it's the Satterfield case, this Doyle racism, or the Rhabdo case, KF doesn't come away blame free, but he's pretty good about "taking responsibility" in the form of "I didn't know anything but as the head coach the buck stops with me." It's a good classic form of shirking responsibility when they were involved in bad ****. Find a fall guy, claim ignorance, don't take responsibility for anything specific you actually did or didn't do, then apologize and say you should've done better as the leader of the organization to identify and correct these problems.

Then the media runs with the same sentiment, ignoring specific actions or inactions by Ferentz himself. They'll do a couple of "Kirk does things the right way, but he needs to get his program back under control" pieces, and everybody moves on.

Very predictable.
 
Don't worry I'll cheer you up when I crash at your place in Nov. We'll hit the town!
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At the end of the day, it comes down to the person at the top. If you are the manager, HC, owner, and you allow someone to do these things and you did nothing about it (especially someone you hired yourself) then you are agreeing with the actions/statements. It is one thing if Kirk had heard somethings and when you go through doyle's personnel file you see disciplinary actions against him; then you know Kirk wasn't in unison with it. If you did nothing, but give him an award, then you are in agreement.
Didn't Urban Meyer leave or was asked to leave due to a similar situation? Not context wise, but the fact that he was the one in power that knew of the wrong doings of his assistant and yet did nothing?
 
DP leading off with Kaepernick/Goodell/Trump.
That’s kind of why I think Doyle survives it.

I’m sure they will touch on this but it’s a S&C who most of these allegations are about which doesn’t make it as interesting.

Finebaum called Kirk a moron apparently
 
Let's not turn this thread into a political debate.. There are other threads for that.
 
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