So you want Iowa State to land Smith? Just want to clarify this in case it happens and he ends up being very good in Ames
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So you want Iowa State to land Smith? Just want to clarify this in case it happens and he ends up being very good in Ames
You make it sound like counting 8-5 as a decent season isn't correct. Iowa has lived at 7-5 the last 20 years under fertenz. So are you saying those aren't decent seasons?
I would say my judgement for how i feel ISU did in the season can flux and isn't just based on the NCAA tournament, but is a weighted average for sure. The tournament is a crap shoot based on how lucky of a draw you get on who is in your region etc.
It really doesn't bother me who ISU land actually. Well Foster hurt, so I don't like ISU landing players that Iowa wanted. The fact is if ISU misses on Smith and lands someone else, you will brag it up like it is the second coming. That's fine, ISU is gonna get players, they can't all be terrible like Nixon and Jacobson, and all the guys that transferred out that were said were gonna be studs.
We were talking about last 10+ years how bad iowa basketball has been and then because you got butthurt you had to talk ISU football and move the goal post of go further in the past where everyone knows we didn't have great coaches. Truly sad by you.
Well when you told an Iowa fan that he doesnt want ISU to get Smith, what were you talking about?
Iowa was bad 10 years ago sure. Iowa has NCAA quality teams the last 5 out of 7 years, so who is the sad one making things up. The goal is always the NCAA Tournament.
I have a minor in statistics. What I mentioned isn't cherry picking data, let alone i never said Goodson was bad so I don't even have a narrative to fit. Maybe you aren't familiar with data and stats but looking at the data in more than one way and whats on the surface isn't cherry picking. Its getting a better understanding of whats going on.
I didnt say that, 8-5 is decent in football.
Making the NCAA tournament is a decent season in basketball. Each game you win in the tourney moves the season up a notch.
It's literally all about perspective. When we won the Big 12 tournament and then lost in the first round of the NCAA two year's ago, people were pissed and were calling for Prohm to be fired. 4 years ago when we won the Big 12 Tournament and lost in the second round of the NCAA tournament by 4 to Purdue, people were criticizing Prohm for his in-game coaching and were pissed off.
On the other hand, two years ago Iowa loses in the second round to Tennessee and people are ecstatic. This past year for Iowa, it felt like Iowa was one of the best teams in the nation based on how Iowa fans were reacting, yet they were most likely going to be a 5-6 seed in the tournament.
It's flip flop for football where expectations at Iowa are a little above where they are for Iowa State. We're all hypocritical.
Haha I think you thought what I was saying was a slight towards you! It was actually towards whoever I was in this argument with. I'm familiar with statistics as well. I was saying that all of us could pick and choose what we want to try and show who's better, but in the end, an Iowa fan would have to break it down and spend 20 minutes out of their life to try and prove that their running back averages .04 yds more against tough defenses.
I in no means was trying to demean you or what you were saying, but I apologize you took it that way.
Good to know your goal is just to make it there. ISU's is at least sweet 16's. Thats the difference between the two programs I guess.
Also, just an FYI, you keep lying when you say 5 out of the last 7. You only made it 4 times in the last 10+ years. 2014, 2015, 2016, 2019. Which 2014, you were the first four (LOL, thats a play in game to get INTO the tournament) which you lost. Then 15,16,19 you made to second round. Congrats
This is pretty true. Hawk fans didn't even think it would be a NCAA year when Iowa took the #2 seed into OT in the second round. That felt like a good performance for that years team. If Iowa loses in round 2 this year, it will feel more disappointing for sure.
Yet getting to the NCAA is never a "disappointing year" for schools like ISU and Iowa.
Quit pretending that ISU's basketball standard is sweet 16's. 2 out of the last 3 years ISU has been garbage and ISU fans would be ecstatic to be the #68 seed this year.
We all have fans that like to live in the dumps. Iowa fans have those for football too.. There were idiot Iowa fans calling for Kirk's head when he was winning 7-8 games too. It happens everywhere lol.
I would take Hall over Goodson right now, but they both still have three years left to play and both have a lot of upside so we will see who will have the better career or even year next year.
