Lol CMC has lost it now and you guys are trying to polish a turd with this ‘21 class.
Iowa Football Recruiting
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Well, then using that argument you no longer have a leg to stand on with Prohm.
That's not the same lol. Pre Campbell, I might agree. But the difference is CMC has picked up great a few great transfers (had a few stinkers also, but everyone does) and Campbell has put people in the league. Heck one is the starting RB for the Chicago bears. So yea, you are trying to compare apples and oranges
I also should have put a bet on how fast it took before a hawk fan tried to make this claim.
How? You're saying putting Wiggington, THT, Shakyok, and soon to be lottery pick Haliburton in the league doesn't count? You're saying landing Shayok was a bad transfer? Yikes man. Just yikes...
We could list all of the under-recruited players that have succeeded under this staff but you guys would ignore that yet again.
That makes no sense. Prohm has put many guys in the league. His problem isn't recruiting
One decent season for ISU football in 10+ years and ISU fans have a 40,000+ thread obsessing about Iowa football recruiting isn't a good look. Pretty ironic you post this in that thread.
So how bad of a coach is he if he recruits well and still has completely destroyed what Fred built?
Wigginton left, not because Prohm was developing him, but because he was wrecking him.
Okay so after doing some research about SP+ Top-40 defenses as they pertain to both ISU and Iowa, both Iowa State and Iowa played 6 SP+ Top-40 defenses.
Iowa: Iowa State, Michigan, Penn State, Wisconsin, Minnesota and USC
Iowa State: Iowa, Baylor, OU, Oklahoma State, Texas, Notre Dame
Goodson
Iowa State - 3 carries, 16 yds
Michigan - 6 carries, 15 yds
Penn State - 8 carries, 35 yds
Wisconsin - 5 carries, 26 yds
Minnesota - 13 carries, 94 yds, 1 TD
USC - 18 carries, 48 yds, 1 TD
ypc: 4.42
Hall
Iowa - 1 carry, 0 yds
Baylor - DNP
OU - 18 carries, 110 yards
Oklahoma State - 18 carries, 76 yds, 2 TD
Texas - 24 carries, 101 yds
Notre Dame - 17 carries, 55 yds
ypc: 4.38
So, assuming these numbers are correct, and I'll post my reference link, you're saying that because Goodson averaged .04 more yards per carry than Hall against better defenses, he's therefore overall better? From my standpoint looking at these numbers, Goodson is a specialty back who's used in certain situations but can't be relied upon to carry the ball very much. The best running back on Iowa is rarely getting the ball against good teams.. Could be a variety of reasons for that but that's just the truth.
https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ncaa/fplus/2019
Good research, I love it!
I think Iowa fans point out that Goodson and Hall were pretty similar except that Hall got much more playing time. As you point out the YPC are close, and the year YPC are exactly the same.
You gotta understand that when Twins trolls something so hard that is where Iowa fans are going to push back. So when Twins constantly calls Goodson garbage, Iowa fans are gonna defend him, and point out he was similar to Hall in YPC with just less carries.
1 decent season? I guess the other 8-5 season wasn't decent enough for you huh. But I love how you think that an Iowa football recruiting thread, on an Iowa state fan page mind you, was started by Iowa State fans. Really shows how clueless you are. Remind me again, who is the individual on their rivals fan page commenting on multiple threads throughout the day again?
I absolutely do not think Goodson is garbage. He's good I just don't think he's better than Hall and neither would most non-biased people who would watch the film and look at the numbers. They would see that Hall has more carries but also probably understand there's a reason for that. Hall is more of a work horse. He's 6'1 210 lbs, while Goodson is 5'10 190 lbs. I'm not equating size to ability, but Hall is going to be able to take more of a beating than Goodson, even if Goodson has a vastly superior offensive line. They're different types of backs and do different things.
You're going to be really happy when you find out how wrong you are on Wisconsin. I mean, it could happen, but everything I've been told is that he is Campbell's to lose. You're more pessimistic than my wife was on our wedding day.
You might have heard him refereed to as the GOAT, but yes, the QB Coach that has place yet another gunslinger into the NFL. Guy is a stud.
LOL, ok ISU has had "2 decent seasons" in the last 19 years and 3 over the last 41 years. Does averaging less than 1 decent season per every 10 years over the last 40 years quality ISU fans to talk about football then?