Iowa Football Recruiting

[mattyheiden]

Okie State had the top overall RB last year, dude was a beast.

Minnesota had 3 guys that had ran for over 1000 yards on the roster last year. There’s no comparison on the OL either. Also, Minnesota ran 4 deep at WR, ask Auburn how MN’s run game was.

Wisconsin had the Doak Walker winner behind that excellent OL. Not a lot of one dimensional one trick ponies in the Big 10. Notre Dame plays a similar style, we all saw how that turned out. It’s tougher to beat teams that are balanced and aren’t one dimensional.

 

[SouthernCy]

Wadley was a better college RB than Montgomery.

Ya'll are really going to stand by that huh? Cause even if that's your hill....you're still wrong

 

[SouthernCy]

Lol Tyrone Tracy had twice as many receiving yards as a freshman than Shaw has in his career. Did I do that right?

No you didnt, because Shaw WAS a freshmen last year so you just compared both their freshmen stats LMAO. You truly are an idiot.

 

[JP4CY]

Minnesota had 3 guys that had ran for over 1000 yards on the roster last year.

Smith, Ibrahim, who's the third? A sit out transfer?

 

[CyTwins]

For the first time in awhile i'd rather have what Iowa returns than what we do.

You can't be serious

 

[SouthernCy]

Pass the pipe buddy...

Serious question since you don't agree with the list; What are you using to rank them? Are you going off just last year's total stats (aka TD's and receiving yards)? Their total career stats? Just curious why you think that is so comical cause I would tend to agree with BC

 

[CyTwins]

I said Wadley was a better COLLEGE running back than Montgomery. What does either player’s post-collegiate career have to do with that?

You were serious about that? Montgomery was an All American. Wadley was nothing

 

[CyTwins]

Minnesota had 3 guys that had ran for over 1000 yards on the roster last year. There’s no comparison on the OL either. Also, Minnesota ran 4 deep at WR, ask Auburn how MN’s run game was.

Wisconsin had the Doak Walker winner behind that excellent OL. Not a lot of one dimensional one trick ponies in the Big 10. Notre Dame plays a similar style, we all saw how that turned out. It’s tougher to beat teams that are balanced and aren’t one dimensional.

I love how Iowa fans keep coming here to stick up for their "rival" Minnesota. And you wonder why your only actual rival is Iowa State

 

[BCClone]

Minnesota had 3 guys that had ran for over 1000 yards on the roster last year. There’s no comparison on the OL either. Also, Minnesota ran 4 deep at WR, ask Auburn how MN’s run game was.

Wisconsin had the Doak Walker winner behind that excellent OL. Not a lot of one dimensional one trick ponies in the Big 10. Notre Dame plays a similar style, we all saw how that turned out. It’s tougher to beat teams that are balanced and aren’t one dimensional.

Minnesota May have used 4 WR sets, but if you don’t throw to one of them at all, they don’t have to take that one seriously.

You saying MN had three backs gain 1000 yards last year? Or sometime in their career? The sometime in their career thing is a dumb thing if it’s that.

 

[TheJackWePack5]

MINNESOTA WRs
Bateman - 3rd team All-American, 1st team All-B1G, 60 catches, 1,219 yards, 11 TDs
Johnson - 1st team All-B1G, 86 catches, 1,318 yards, 13 TDs

BAYLOR WRs
Mims - 1st team All-Big 12, 66 catches, 1,020 yards, 12 TDs
Thorton - Zero accolades, 45 catches, 782 yards, 5 TDs

But Baylor's WRs were as good, and the numbers prove it. Sure, makes sense.

Duvernay is the only one who may have been the best of all of them, but Bateman was voted an All-American and Duvernay wasn't, so. Either way, neither Texas nor Okie St. (nor Baylor, sorry) had a 1-2 punch at WR even close to the Goophers.

This is a good post. Some solid points.

Tylan Wallace & CeeDee Lamb still would have been the best WRs that ISU faced by a wide margin, even if Minnesota was on the schedule.

For Texas, I’d have put Duvernay & Colin Johnson (559yards & 3 TD in half a season) against those two Minne WRs any day.

Baylor’s 1-2 punch was a tick below Minne. Baylor still had the deeper WR group (note how you stopped at 2 with each group).

Again, Minne didn’t have anything at WR that ISU didn’t already see 3 or 4 times.

 

[JP4CY]

Minnesota May have used 4 WR sets, but if you don’t throw to one of them at all, they don’t have to take that one seriously.

You saying MN had three backs gain 1000 yards last year? Or sometime in their career? The sometime in their career thing is a dumb thing if it’s that.

It's definitely not last year. He phrased it in a vague way.

 

[Legend Hawk]

I guess I find it laughable that any team that isn't bowl eligible is a cupcake. I mean, maybe they are for OU, Bama and tOSU. 5-7 teams aren't cupcakes for most 7-5/8-4 type teams...especially when beating them actually kept them out of a bowl.

I for one do not have a problem with Iowa's schedule last year. It was fine. That it is even debatable that it was tougher than ISU's is a huge improvement over past years when Iowa's schedule was a joke. The Big 10 West isn't the laughing stock that it used to be, and that's a credit to teams like Minnesota. If they can sustain and Nebraska actually gets some traction, your schedule will be pretty tough the years you play tOSU. If I were you, I'd be pretty concerned about what Fleck, Frost and Campbell are doing, especially when you are staring at a coaching transition. But that's just me.

ISU was 1-6 vs Bowl eligible teams last year, and ISU is 4-11 vs bowl eligible teams over the last 2 years. ISU is 11-0 vs the cupcakes it plays (non bowl teams) over the last 2 years. 7 and 8 win teams are teams that beat the teams they should and struggle vs bowl eligible teams. If you can't beat nearly every team you play that is non bowl eligible, then you will most likely will be sitting at home come bowl season as well.

So basically welcome to the world of 7-8 wins. These teams beat the non bowl teams they play win 35% of the games they play vs bowl eligible teams. 9 and 10 win teams beat all the non bowl teams they play and win 50% of the games they play vs bowl eligible teams. I know beating all these cupcakes is new to ISU fans, but that really is what should happen 90% of the time (sure you can lose a game every couple years to one). When you do though, your margin is now so slim, and you have to win an extra game vs a good team which is hard to do year in and year out if you are losing games you shouldn't.

Don't get me wrong, If CMC keeps ISU at this level, that is great, it is a HUGE step up from the history that ISU has. Heck for Iowa, if the down years are at this level that is great as well. Yet this is why Iowa fans get restless, they want the 9 and 10 win years as the norm, not the exception. Those are years you are beating cupcakes AND going .500 or better vs bowl eligible teams. That is hard to get to and maintain. That is why Iowa going 9-7 vs bowl eligible teams and 10-0 vs non bowl teams over the last two years has been fun and impressive.

 

[Gonzo]

Serious question since you don't agree with the list; What are you using to rank them? Are you going off just last year's total stats (aka TD's and receiving yards)? Their total career stats? Just curious why you think that is so comical cause I would tend to agree with BC

I think in my All Iowa Football Team I had ISM and Milton as my two WRs, and I think it'd be pretty hard to argue against that. By season's end if Brandon Smith can stay healthy he might squeeze one of them out. But right now I'd say ISM is #1 and then Milton, and yeah much of it based on what they did last season. ISM just proved more on the field. Better numbers, more dynamic player, which he proved in the bowl game. Is it close? Sure. But to try arguing that right now Shaw is the better WR is just silly.

 

[Crookedhatkid]

ISU was 1-6 vs Bowl eligible teams last year, and ISU is 4-11 vs bowl eligible teams over the last 2 years. ISU is 11-0 vs the cupcakes it plays (non bowl teams) over the last 2 years. 7 and 8 win teams are teams that beat the teams they should and struggle vs bowl eligible teams. If you can't beat nearly every team you play that is non bowl eligible, then you will most likely will be sitting at home come bowl season as well.

So basically welcome to the world of 7-8 wins. These teams beat the non bowl teams they play win 35% of the games they play vs bowl eligible teams. 9 and 10 win teams beat all the non bowl teams they play and win 50% of the games they play vs bowl eligible teams. I know beating all these cupcakes is new to ISU fans, but that really is what should happen 90% of the time (sure you can lose a game every couple years to one). When you do though, your margin is now so slim, and you have to win an extra game vs a good team which is hard to do year in and year out if you are losing games you shouldn't.

Don't get me wrong, If CMC keeps ISU at this level, that is great, it is a HUGE step up from the history that ISU has. Heck for Iowa, if the down years are at this level that is great as well. Yet this is why Iowa fans get restless, they want the 9 and 10 win years as the norm, not the exception. Those are years you are beating cupcakes AND going .500 or better vs bowl eligible teams. That is hard to get to and maintain. That is why Iowa going 9-7 vs bowl eligible teams and 10-0 vs non bowl teams over the last two years has been fun and impressive.

What is funny is that one of those non-bowl cupcakes that ISU played beat the Big 10 West champion. Your bowl teams argument is incredibly disingenuous because a 5-7 Big 12 team is better than a 10 win MAC team.

 

[cycloner29]

Wash, rinse and repeat day again on this thread.

 

[Legend Hawk]

What is funny is that one of those non-bowl cupcakes that ISU played beat the Big 10 West champion. Your bowl teams argument is incredibly disingenuous because a 5-7 Big 12 team is better than a 10 win MAC team.

Really? Huh, then why did TCU lose to a bowl eligible American conference team and Kansas lost to a non bowl eligible Coastal Carolina last year? Congrats on Tech beating a 1 win UTEP team though.

Sure all games are tough, you can lose to teams you should beat. I'm saying that if you are a 7 or 8 win team it is more than likely that 5 or 6 wins those wins came against teams that didn't make bowls (sub .500 teams). Then you win 1-3 games vs bowl eligible teams (above .500 teams). That is exactly what ISU has done over the last 2 years. 11-0 vs sub .500 teams and 4-11 vs above .500 teams.

I'm not sure why this bothers you guys, this is how teams have gotten to 7 or 8 win teams for a long time now.

 

[mattyheiden]

Smith, Ibrahim, who's the third? A sit out transfer?

Shannon Brooks & Bryce Williams both were starters at one time prior to injuries or due to injuries. Brooks had over 2200 yards rushing for his career.

Also, Purdue’s Tandem of David Bell & Rondale Moore will be one of the best in the country. Purdue’s WR room is absolutely stacked this spring.

 

[mattyheiden]

It's definitely not last year. He phrased it in a vague way.

Minnesota has had more production from their ground game than the vast majority of teams you face in interleague play. There’s really no debate there.

 

[Crookedhatkid]

Really? Huh, then why did TCU lose to a bowl eligible American conference team and Kansas lost to a non bowl eligible Coastal Carolina last year? Congrats on Tech beating a 1 win UTEP team though.

Sure all games are tough, you can lose to teams you should beat. I'm saying that if you are a 7 or 8 win team it is more than likely that 5 or 6 wins those wins came against teams that didn't make bowls (sub .500 teams). Then you win 1-3 games vs bowl eligible teams (above .500 teams). That is exactly what ISU has done over the last 2 years. 11-0 vs sub .500 teams and 4-11 vs above .500 teams.

I'm not sure why this bothers you guys, this is how teams have gotten to 7 or 8 win teams for a long time now.

Kansas lost to Coastal Carolina...then turned around and pummeled BC which was (gasp) a bowl team. It’s almost as if there isn’t a huge gap between 7 win teams and 5 win teams.

 

[5 card straight]

Max Llewellyn just committed to Iowa. Good pickup.