Coronavirus Coronavirus: In-Iowa General Discussion (Not Limited)

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It's possible if a state that had relatively sparse population that is spread out and is really proactive and strict on lockdown that could happen. But considering long incubation period, ease of transmission, ability to transmit without symptoms and the fact that most of the US has been pretty lax about this, I don't see it happening. I'd guess you might see a few regional secondary bumps, but nothing close to the first peak.


I researched a little more and found a study that compared it to SARS, which is a coronavirus itself. Median incubation period was 5 days, so that would put it roughly 2-8 days. More an FYI and an answer to my questions than disputing anything you said.
 
I believe I’ve heard over the past week that it more like 2-6 days now
There is a bunch of conflicting info out there. While they have seen some long incubation periods I think in general you start seeing symptoms within 4 days of exposure. So pretty much like any other bug.
 
There is a bunch of conflicting info out there. While they have seen some long incubation periods I think in general you start seeing symptoms within 4 days of exposure. So pretty much like any other bug.
Yeah, I found a study that worked on this. Compared it to SARS which it self is a coronavirus. Median was 5 days, so we are talking roughly 2-8 days for most of the cases for incubation.
 
Both my 7th and 11th grader said that Friday was spent going over online items and how to use Canvas. So I'm pretty sure everyone is preparing for the inevitable.

That said, I do understand the hesitancy to closing them all, because it's no guarantee that it prevents groups, because we know many of these kids will end up together outside the classroom. In addition it puts a larger strain on parents, particularly those in the medical field who will be working a lot of overtime soon.
 
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So Iowa's strategy appears to be waiting until things start looking bad before cancelling anything. Cool, cool.

The issue they face is that if they cancel now, how long are they closed? If they cancel with no confirmed cases and this lasts another year, how do they justify reopening?

If you shut down because of the cases in IC, then you might as well declare the start of summer break because this isn't going away in a week or a month.
 
The issue they face is that if they cancel now, how long are they closed? If they cancel with no confirmed cases and this lasts another year, how do they justify reopening?

If you shut down because of the cases in IC, then you might as well declare the start of summer break because this isn't going away in a week or a month.
You shut down because right now you have no idea how bad it is because testing is non existent. Once we actually start testing symptomatic people and get a real handle on how widespread the issue is you can make better informed decisions.
 
You shut down because right now you have no idea how bad it is because testing is non existent. Once we actually start testing symptomatic people and get a real handle on how widespread the issue is you can make better informed decisions.

When do you really think that's going to happen? The tests are expensive and sparsely available. With few densely populated areas and few cases reported, Iowa won't be high in the federal government's list of priorities. We're not going to have widespread testing here before summer. Continue to close non-essential gatherings and follow the same procedures you would during flu season.

Also, what is your threshold for safe to open schools once you close them? No cases in Iowa, the county, the city?
 
The problem is if Iowa wants to wait until community spread is common to shut down, its long too late at that point. The goal of shutting down is to prevent that spread.

I don’t know why this is so difficult for people to understand.

But then you're going to be shut down for a year. This isn't a matter of a week long shutdown for a snowstorm. This is going to be a long term issue we're going to have to learn to deal with.
 
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But then you're going to be shut down for a year. This isn't a matter of a week long shutdown for a snowstorm. This is going to be a long term issue we're going to have to learn to deal with.

And we could use a couple weeks for Purell and others to get sanitizer everywhere, schools to have a fever checking station at the doors, places to setup more delivery services, etc. That is how several countries have been able to greatly limit the spread without a shutdown.
 
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And we could use a couple weeks for Purell and others to get sanitizer everywhere, schools to have a fever checking station at the doors, places to setup more delivery services, etc. That is how several countries have been able to greatly limit the spread without a shutdown.

That shouldn't take more than the spring break week to implement.
 
When do you really think that's going to happen? The tests are expensive and sparsely available. With few densely populated areas and few cases reported, Iowa won't be high in the federal government's list of priorities. We're not going to have widespread testing here before summer. Continue to close non-essential gatherings and follow the same procedures you would during flu season.

Also, what is your threshold for safe to open schools once you close them? No cases in Iowa, the county, the city?
I can't speak to when Iowa is getting more tests, but It would be helpful to know more even from a national perspective where this is at. Other countries have had massive testing programs so don't tell me it can't be done. Besides, schools are one thing, but we arent even shutting down the ******* DSM St. Patricks day parade.
 
The problem is if Iowa wants to wait until community spread is common to shut down, its long too late at that point. The goal of shutting down is to prevent that spread.

I don’t know why this is so difficult for people to understand.

That's where I am at with it. Shut it down until we figure out how to adequately test for it. Once we have confidence about how actual cases vs tested cased line up, we can make informed decisions.
 
I can't speak to when Iowa is getting more tests, but It would be helpful to know more even from a national perspective where this is at. Other countries have had massive testing programs so don't tell me it can't be done. Besides, schools are one thing, but we arent even shutting down the ******* DSM St. Patricks day parade.

I agree the parade is dumb. And I agree it would be helpful to know more. But, our federal government has dropped the ball on this and it's not going to get better anytime soon. It certainly can be done, but it won't. So we have to react with the information we have. And the information we have is that it isn't a big deal yet in Iowa. From what I've seen, most schools are ready to pivot when the need arises. This seems like the right response to me. Be orepared, but don't over react.
 
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That shouldn't take more than the spring break week to implement.
Having worked in a large iowa school district for the better part of decade I LOLed at this. There's like a 200 people total working over spring break and 150 of those are custodial crews waxing floors. Unless you're going to compensate the right people and have them voluntarily (union contracts) come in over this week, aint **** getting done as far as implementing new measures.
 
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Integrated DNA in Coralville announced they will be able to produce 5 million test kits per week by next week. There are similar private labs nationally ramping up the same abilities. I would guess it’s 30 days before there is adequate tests nationally to be able to handle every person who needs tested
 
Integrated DNA in Coralville announced they will be able to produce 5 million test kits per week by next week. There are similar private labs nationally ramping up the same abilities. I would guess it’s 30 days before there is adequate tests nationally to be able to handle every person who needs tested

From a health official monitoring the situation closely, could be up to 8 weeks before we have the tests we need.

 
The problem is if Iowa wants to wait until community spread is common to shut down, its long too late at that point. The goal of shutting down is to prevent that spread.

I don’t know why this is so difficult for people to understand.

This is a good time to remind people that we live in a state that oriented its entire school calendar around the Iowa State Fair, if that gives you a sense of where our priorities are.
 
So Iowa's strategy appears to be waiting until things start looking bad before cancelling anything. Cool, cool.

The best is districts that are directly saying they aren't closing since there haven't been reported cases.
 
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