Sent that exact text to a buddy yesterday. Also - when was the last time we had a walk-on play 11 minutes? That has to be some sort of record.
This is why Prohm must go........
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Sent that exact text to a buddy yesterday. Also - when was the last time we had a walk-on play 11 minutes? That has to be some sort of record.
I would bet money it was Bubu Palo, who was pretty good for a walk-on.
That has to be the correct answer. However, No one will ever log more minutes as a walk on at Iowa State than Jeff Hornacek. He was playing a lot before they put him on scholarship
Well now Cat my friend ...now I can agree with your post...I attended the Nebraska game when Jeff Hornacek was a freshman and was not on scholarship...Nebraska and Moe Iba with an offense that would pass up a layup (actually happened late in the game)....Won the game.....Let me tell ya Jeff Hornacek just might have been the greatest gift the state of Illinois ever gave us....
I’m starting to wonder if saying “he’s a great recruiter” is just us rationalizing reality for the next couple years. Compared to what? Mad Fran? While he is a “good” recruiter, he’s still getting out recruited by a majority of the other Big 12 coaches.
He’s great at recruiting HS players by ISU standards. He is below average at recruiting transfers and especially JCs.
Yep, taken together he’s entirely average. Inability to recruit transfers effectively has hurt bad. And he hasn’t shown the ability to coach up his recruits at the level needed.
Yeah, all those guys earning professional paychecks really shows he can coach up players.
what a dishonest post.
or maybe you are another one that saw Nader as a draft pick after his jr year, saw Naz earning nba minutes, just knew Deonte was a pro player, and didn’t think Matt Thomas was a recruiting miss after his sophomore year where he didn’t play much?
There are a lot of things to criticize prohm over, players getting better isn’t one of them.
But I’m sure you gave him a fair chance.
What in your mind are the legitimate things to criticize him for? I keep hearing you say that but then you push back against every criticism that is levied against him.
I think this "look at all of our nba talent" is missing some key data along the way:
niang, morris, shayok, and THT were all late second rd picks, its not like they went lottery. and all of those 4 essentially went straight to the g league, where they excelled under new coaching and their own hard work. we'll see if THT and shayok can get the nba role that niang and morris have today. hope they can.
burton went to korea, matt to spain, and naz and nader straight to the g league, where again, both naz and nader were g league studs. burton, matt and nader landed nba deals after significant improvement after their time at isu. credit to them.
so really, only Tyrese will be a legit nba draft pick right out of ISU. Prohm gets all the credit in the world for that one.
niang, morris, shayok, and THT were all late second rd picks, its not like they went lottery. and all of those 4 essentially went straight to the g league, where they excelled under new coaching and their own hard work. we'll see if THT and shayok can get the nba role that niang and morris have today. hope they can.
burton went to korea, matt to spain, and naz and nader straight to the g league, where again, both naz and nader were g league studs. burton, matt and nader landed nba deals after significant improvement after their time at isu. credit to them.
so really, only Tyrese will be a legit nba draft pick right out of ISU. Prohm gets all the credit in the world for that one.
Will he be a lottery pick though? A lot of potential for sure. Any chance he stays?
I push back against the ridiculous criticisms of how the first team was 2011 Kentucky level, or that players didn’t get better playing for him. And that somehow he’s destroyed this mythical creature that Iowa State supposedly is.
I think he’s really average on the sidelines. I think the structure of his program has not been able to be established because the ideas that he had as to how this team would look, changed drastically after the season. I don’t think there is a strong presence on the sidelines, for any of the coaches for that matter.
That has to change. He needs to be the bad cop, and that’s not his personality.
I don’t think he’s here past next year. But he’s going to get next year. I’ll choose to hope for the best and not lament successes he’s had like some of the fanatics on this page.
theres a better chance i suit up next year for isu than Tyrese.
Prohm gets all the credit for tyrese, who blew up over the summer playing on the u19 USA team for coach prohm? Oh wait that's not right, he blew up while playing for coach Webber.
I was trying not to bury prohm and be diplomatic about it.
true TH also played great under webber and proved himself against peer talent.
I should be shocked you made up more ********, but I’m not.
Tyrese was the least impressive recruit in last years recruiting class. And last March, everyone’s favorite commentator, Fran Fraschilla called him the best nba prospect on last years team.
but please continue to make up lies and nonsense, it will eventually stick as a talking point for your group.
You don’t think prohm deserves any credit for all of the nba players, right?
so then his first team performed well since all those guys were not great players, then also, right?
You're probably right. I hope he's a lottery pick as that would obviously be awesome for him. Walker better be ready next season.
