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Yeah he was really good. Even good players have bad games but he was all over the place last night

Tough to have a good opinion on Bolton when the only games we get to see are his bad ones. I mean he was pretty bad vs Iowa, and Tech (which was on regular ESPN).
 
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You've only watched two games?

When else have they been on lately outside of ESPN+? I watched the Michigan game in that tournament, the Iowa game, part of the Tech game. I've seen bits and pieces of other games as well, but with ESNP+ now, non ISU fans just aren't going to see them play. Bolton has never looked good any time I've watched ISU play.
 
I mean I said that and got mocked for it BEFORE Solomon just put up 27 and 9

Won't matter anyway, Garza only needs 5 min. of rest a game. You could put Young, Kriener, Conditt, heck (and I can't beleive I'm saying this) even Jacobson would service as a 5 min. a game backup to Garza. You absolutely ride these 5.

Haliburton
Green
Wieskamp
CJ
Garza
 
When else have they been on lately outside of ESPN+? I watched the Michigan game in that tournament, the Iowa game, part of the Tech game. I've seen bits and pieces of other games as well, but with ESNP+ now, non ISU fans just aren't going to see them play. Bolton has never looked good any time I've watched ISU play.

So you're judging Bolton on less than 3 games and ignoring his season full of stats. Lol OK
 
That's fine.....

Solomon averages 1 pt more. Ryan averages 1 reb more, more assists and a higher shooting percentage.

Both good role players IMO.

I think Kriener, Young and Jacobson are all a wash IMO. Youngs probably the best of the bunch just because of defense if you had to pick. Kriener is universally known for his defense lol
 
So you're judging Bolton on less than 3 games and ignoring his season full of stats. Lol OK

Ok, I'm looking at his stats. I see a decent offensive player, a poor defensive player, and a player who has a poor A/TO ratio for a guard.

So ok, it looks like he can score some. Lets face it though, he would be coming off the bench on a Hoiberg team. Prohm just doesn't have a good roster now, so yeah he gets to put up lots of shots.
 
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Ok, I'm looking at his stats. I see a decent offensive player, a poor defensive player, and a player who has a poor A/TO ratio for a guard.

So ok, it looks like he can score some. Lets face it though, he would be coming off the bench on a Hoiberg team. Prohm just doesn't have a good roster now, so yeah he gets to put up lots of shots.

Imagine averaging 15 ppg and that being "a decent offensive player"
 
I think Kriener, Young and Jacobson are all a wash IMO. Youngs probably the best of the bunch just because of defense if you had to pick. Kriener is universally known for his defense lol

Kriener has a better DRtg, averages more steals and rebounds per 40 minutes and has a better DBPM and higher number of defensive win shares than Young this season.
 
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Imagine averaging 15 ppg and that being "a decent offensive player"

I say decent offensive player because he is rather inefficient. He scores points, because he takes a lot of shots. Averaging 15 PPG while having a meh PER is kind of an eye opener. I'm wondering who else in the country averages 15 PPG with a 17 PER and 1.7 WS. Maybe he is better than I think and what I have seen is just skewing everything for me. I'll say that is a possibility.

I'd like to hear what other Clone fans think of him.
 
I say decent offensive player because he is rather inefficient. He scores points, because he takes a lot of shots. Averaging 15 PPG while having a meh PER is kind of an eye opener. I'm wondering who else in the country averages 15 PPG with a 17 PER and 1.7 WS. Maybe he is better than I think and what I have seen is just skewing everything for me. I'll say that is a possibility.

I'd like to hear what other Clone fans think of him.

His TS% is over 55%. How is that inefficient when his job is to be a scorer?
 
His TS% is over 55%. How is that inefficient when his job is to be a scorer?

Like I said, it is decent. I'm not saying he is a bad scorer, I'm saying he is decent offensively. Haliburton is at 62%. CJ Fredrick is at 69%, and you rip on him. Jordan Bohannon has a career 57% and you rip him all the time. Heck Ryan Kriener has a career 60% TS%.
 
Like I said, it is decent. I'm not saying he is a bad scorer, I'm saying he is decent offensively. Haliburton is at 62%. CJ Fredrick is at 69%, and you rip on him. Jordan Bohannon has a career 57% and you rip him all the time. Heck Ryan Kriener has a career 60% TS%.

So are any of those players just decent offensively?
 
So are any of those players just decent offensively?

You think TS% is the only metric to look at to see if a player is a good offensive player? I look at multiple different things. Here is what I look at offensively for a guard.

14.7 PPG
106.4 OR (offensive rating)
55% TS%
1.2 OWS (offensive win shares)
1.2 A/TO

Lets look at CJ

11.1 PPG
130 OR
69% TS%
1.4 OWS
2.19 A/TO

Lets look at Jordan career

11.7 PPG
117 OR
58% TS%
2.0 WS (average over 4 years)
2.3 A/TO


Looking all around at these three players I'd say I would want CJ or Jordan taking more shots than Bolton. I think you have been pretty vocal about saying how bad CJ and Jordan are, but you think Bolton is super awesome?
 
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