Per Jon Miller Iowa>Bucky

You are acting desperate now, and it isn't a good look. You are saying that I can't know who is better between say Illinois and ISU because neither are ranked in the AP top 25?

I just don't know how you can't look at AP votes to determine who is a better team. Truly mind boggling
 
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So no difference in clinging onto Top 10 seasons as opposed to "receiving votes" and not being included in the AP Top 25 poll.

What are you talking about? I've heard a million times "Well KF has finished top 10 in AP votes 5 years while at Iowa" and now AP votes don't mean anything. Hilarious
 
Really? Iowa fans talk about Kirk Ferentz finishing in the top 10 in receiving votes any chance they get

Iowa fans talk about finishing a season actually being ranked in the top 10 of the AP poll. I don't reference any season that we just receive votes.
 
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What are you talking about? I've heard a million times "Well KF has finished top 10 in AP votes 5 years while at Iowa" and now AP votes don't mean anything. Hilarious

The final AP poll matters, and that is a top 25 poll, not 26, or 30 or 50, but just top 25.

For someone how loves the AP as much as you, it seems like you don't understand what a top 25 even means.
 
Iowa fans talk about finishing a season actually being ranked in the top 10 of the AP poll. I don't reference any season that we just receive votes.

You realize that means they were top 10 in the country in votes received right or are you just this dumb?
 
You realize that means they were top 10 in the country in votes received right or are you just this dumb?

Yip, they were in the top 25. I mean seriously how many times do I have to explain to you that a vote for the top 25 can only rank 25 teams, there is no #26.
 
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Yip, they were in the top 25. I mean seriously how many times do I have to explain to you that a vote for the top 25 can only rank 25 teams, there is no #26.

Are you confused and think AP voters were voting Colorado 26th or something?
 
Are you confused and think AP voters were voting Colorado 26th or something?

Not confused at all, you seem downright lost though.

You can't rank 26 teams when you have voters vote for a top 25. There is a reason the AP doesn't list Colorado at #26, they can only say they received votes. If you want a top 30 vote, you have no idea if Colorado will be #26 or not after all 65 voters top 30 is tabulated.
 
Not confused at all, you seem downright lost though.

You can't rank 26 teams when you have voters vote for a top 25. There is a reason the AP doesn't list Colorado at #26, they can only say they received votes. If you want a top 30 vote, you have no idea if Colorado will be #26 or not after all 65 voters top 30 is tabulated.

It's not complicated, however many AP votes you get determines where you are at. Iowa has had 5 years where they were in the top 10 in AP votes received and Colorado has received the 26th most AP votes in the country
 
It's not complicated, however many AP votes you get determines where you are at. Iowa has had 5 years where they were in the top 10 in AP votes received and Colorado has received the 26th most AP votes in the country

The AP ranks the top 25 teams only. You can't rank more than 25 teams when you only vote for 25 teams. Anyone outside the top 25 are just teams that received votes, it isn't a ranking. It is pretty clear, that is exactly what the AP says, because that is what it is. There is no AP #26, AP #32, or AP #40 ranking.
 
The AP ranks the to 25 teams only. You can't rank more than 25 teams when you only vote for 25 teams. Anyone outside the top 25 are just teams that received votes, it isn't a ranking. It is pretty clear, that is exactly what the AP says, because that is what it is. There is no AP #26, AP #32, or AP #40 ranking.

So you don't think the AP voters view Colorado as better than any other team in the receiving votes category because if that's the case I strongly disagree
 
That didn't answer my question at all

And you have still never answered mine. How can you say a team is ranked #26 or #32 or #40 in a top 25 ranking? It is a top #25. The only way you can know who is #26 is if all 65 voters re do their ballots and vote for 26 teams. Colorado may or may not end up as #26 then.
 
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What does last year have to do with the AP? My main beef with the AP has to do with pre season ranking artificially inflating teams. Also the way the rankings make no sense right now anyway. 3-1 BYU behind a 3-1 Wisconsin. 3-1 Texas ranked 3-1 Maryland not. Teams shouldn't even be ranked until the playoff poll comes out. Then do whatever you want with the AP
You have to evaluate them off of their "body of work"
 
And you have still never answered mine. How can you say a team is ranked #26 or #32 or #40 in a top 25 ranking? It is a top #25. The only way you can know who is #26 is if all 65 voters re do their ballots and vote for 26 teams. Colorado may or may not end up as #26 then.

Colorado is the top team receiving votes not in the top 25. I don't care at all if you consider them ranked 26th or not but you have to admit the AP voters view them as the best team not in the top 25
 
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Colorado is the top team receiving votes not in the top 25. I don't care at all if you consider them ranked 26th or not but you have to admit the AP voters view them as the best team not in the top 25

The Voters didn't place a vote for best team not in the top 25, so you have no clue if this is the case.
 

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