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Biggest disadvantage in the CyHawk Series since 1980

BCClone said:
Johnson was a very good part of the 1-2 punch of Lima/johnson. I know Lima is good, but many forget that johnson was in quite a bit and we didn't drop off much from there. Uwa came in a lot for wagoneer and bailey. Benton played right end quite often. By the time OU game hit we were cycling about 3 lines in and out thoughtout the game with different combinations. If tongamoa can even be to johnson level, we can run a 3 or four man front with no drop off. Bailey and Uwa are freak athletes that can move around and give different options all over.

But yeah, we only have Bailey and Lima coming back who played or showed anything last year.
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Cmon, man. You’re including guys like Johnson, who had 3 tackles last year, and Benton, who had 11 tackles last year, as players that have proven they can play at a high level. That is silly.

Iowa has 9 or 10 guys that can match the playing time/production that those guys put forth last year.
 
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Best hot take I've seen so far :

"Iowa's DL is so good! Did you see how awesome they were against that MAC team"

Then discussing Fat Stanley and his awful perform:

"It's only one game I'm not going to overreact over it"
 
benjimill said:
Cmon, man. You’re including guys like Johnson, who had 3 tackles last year, and Benton, who had 11 tackles last year, as players that have proven they can play at a high level. That is silly.
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Our interior lineman don't get a lot of tackles due to them being block eaters. Even the DEs don't get as much with the 3 man front. Heacock has them doing an assignment of eating blockers to keep the backers free. They have done that job well.

So you are saying we need to only use stats to evaluate players?
 
benjimill said:
I assume this is a typo and you meant to say amazing or something? There are a lot of adjectives you could use to describe Montgomery; blazing is not one of them.
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I miswrote--Montgomery is similar in that he's not blazing but definitely a strong runner.

Not everything is a petty jab or unrealistic stargazing. You should try it some time Mash.
 
BCClone said:
Our interior lineman don't get a lot of tackles due to them being block eaters. Even the DEs don't get as much with the 3 man front. Heacock has them doing an assignment of eating blockers to keep the backers free. They have done that job well.

So you are saying we need to only use stats to evaluate players?
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That seems to be the route @CyTwins is taking. And I don’t care what a player’s role in a defense is, it is laughable to claim that someone with three tackles has proven they can play at a high level.
 
herbicide said:
We won the 2002 game in large part to selling out against the run (especially in the 2nd half). Dared Brad Banks to beat us with his arm. He couldn't do it.

The only other team that rolled with that strategy against them was USC. We all know how that went for Banks and Co.

Granted, this was 16 years ago:confused: so my memory may be off, but I don't recall any B10 foes selling out against their run game.
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No idea what their overall opponents were like. I remember their secondary seeing 3 good QBs all year and none were in the Big Ten, and all tore them up.
 
benjimill said:
That seems to be the route @CyTwins is taking. And I don’t care what a player’s role in a defense is, it is laughable to claim that someone with three tackles has proven they can play at a high level.
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You don't think it's laughable to not start your most talented player?
 
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benjimill said:
That seems to be the route @CyTwins is taking. And I don’t care what a player’s role in a defense is, it is laughable to claim that someone with three tackles has proven they can play at a high level.
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How many tackles does it take for them to be considered able to play at a high level. You said three was too low, said 11 was too low. What is the magic number? 50? You gotta have a number since you focus on numbers.
 
JP4CY said:
Hey, maybe he's like Garza. He's elite in one half of his game, he just shouldn't start for any Power schools.
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Who cares about defense in basketball. Just like blocking for TE's, you don't need to know how to do it at Iowa
 
Clonefan32 said:
I think it is impossible to try to project outcomes, which is why I struggle with your entire point. Sure, Campbell would take a game over no game if you could guarantee a win and healthy key players. But there's no way you can do that.

You are trying to state something as an undeinable, empirical fact when it isn't. It's that simple. We benefit from no one being injured. We benefit from no one having been dinged up. We benefit from putting nothing on tape. We do not benefit from missing out on reps-- on that I do agree, although refuse to treat it as the end-all-be-all.

But to sit there and say the sum of those things is us being at some astronomical disadvantage, the likes of which we have not see in the past 38 years is an absurd statement. It's just silly and with your posting history, it's so blatantly obvious that you are preparing an argument for yourself in the event we lose.
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It is not just a pre-excuse for a potential loss. It is also a way to say "we totally were at a massive disadvantage and we beat you. Man you guys really suck." It is a very crafty approach to stake out a troll position in preparation for either outcome a week in advance. Gotta hand it to the guy.
 
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jmb said:
It is not just a pre-excuse for a potential loss. It is also a way to say "we totally were at a massive disadvantage and we beat you. Man you guys really suck." It is a very crafty approach to stake out a troll position in preparation for either outcome a week in advance. Gotta hand it to the guy.
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CyTwins has a loser mentality and would never fit in with Campbell's attempted culture change at ISU. Campbell has already come out and said there will be no excuses, but at the same time CyTwins already has about 10 on standby.
 
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CyTwins said:
Curious if any of you three disagree with this or are you actually going to not troll and be objective @RedBayou @iahawks @benjimill
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I disagree that Iowa State has a better secondary and better pass-catchers. Mostly, I just think it is laughable that you have tried to break down the positions in the manner you did, just to give Iowa State the advantage. It would be like breaking down the basketball team in the following manner:

Shooting ability of guards: Iowa > ISU
Offensive ability of posts: Iowa > ISU
Rebounding: Iowa > ISU
Defense: ISU > Iowa
 
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