Iowa -7 vs ISU

It is a student athlete conduct code determination. And I am sure there is also additional punishment internally that went on.
 
Little Brother,

You can read through the ISU student athlete code of conduct if you'd like. Would you like me to link it?

Why are you mad?

Love,
Big Brother (DerpyHerky)

Not mad at all.

Like I said I didn’t see a press release. Didn’t know this was a code of conduct item and thus out of the hands a any individual coaching staff. Good to know.
 
Not mad at all.

Like I said I didn’t see a press release. Didn’t know this was a code of conduct item and thus out of the hands a any individual coaching staff. Good to know.

That is good. Your posts just seem to have a lot of anger in them. Just wanted to make sure you are ok and am here if you need to talk.

Love,
Big Brorther (DerpyHerky)
 
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Allen is an elite blocker, hence why he was second team

I'm a bit intrigued by this. I'm asking this because I honestly don't know. Did he not want to switch positions coming to school?

A 6'6" TE that excels at blocking (taking your word for it) is a no brainier candidate to pack on some weight and slide over to OT at Iowa.
 
I'm a bit intrigued by this. I'm asking this because I honestly don't know. Did he not want to switch positions coming to school?

A 6'6" TE that excels at blocking (taking your word for it) is a no brainier candidate to pack on some weight and slide over to OT at Iowa.

Or he could go to Iowa State and excel so much he was 2nd team all conference as a freshman
 
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Why?

It's quite obvious that the main role of TE's in ISU's system is to block.

Hence why they have recruited a plethora of 6'4-6'6 receivers to flex out as a defacto split end.

It's about mismatches. If you bring in your plethora of tall WRs, the defense gets a chance to sub in guys with a chance to cover them. With a 6'4" TE who plays a majority of the snaps, he's more likely to get matched up with a LB or safety.

Athlon agrees with me. Take a look at #14 as well.

https://athlonsports.com/college-football/college-footballs-top-15-tight-ends-2018
 
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Or he could go to Iowa State and excel so much he was 2nd team all conference as a freshman

He could also do that. The last high school TE we brought in and moved to OT seems to have worked out pretty well. #5 overall pick in the draft and is a 2 time pro-bowler. But if Allen is fine being 2nd team all conference with very limited, if any pro prospects, who am I to argue?
 
Not mad at all.

Like I said I didn’t see a press release. Didn’t know this was a code of conduct item and thus out of the hands a any individual coaching staff. Good to know.
Where did you look for a press release?
So much **** you've asked for you could use Google you know.
But here you are just firing away stupid **** left and right.
 
It's about mismatches. If you bring in your plethora of tall WRs, the defense gets a chance to sub in guys with a chance to cover them. With a 6'4" TE who plays a majority of the snaps, he's more likely to get matched up with a LB or safety.

Athlon agrees with me. Take a look at #14 as well.

https://athlonsports.com/college-football/college-footballs-top-15-tight-ends-2018
Butler often found/will continue to find himself matched up in the slot/split end spot with a LB or Safety. ISU ran quite a few 4 WR sets, and i'd imagine they will continue to do so. Really forces the defenses hand.

And yes, I'm sure they want the TE's to be more of a threat, but with the lack of TE's being recruited (2019 will be their 4th class and they have recruited 3 scholarship TE's in those 4 classes, and likely won't take one in 2019) it kind of validates my point of big WR being the mismatch moving forward.
 
He could also do that. The last high school TE we brought in and moved to OT seems to have worked out pretty well. #5 overall pick in the draft and is a 2 time pro-bowler. But if Allen is fine being 2nd team all conference with very limited, if any pro prospects, who am I to argue?

Scherf was like 300 lbs coming out of high school and was always projected to be a lineman. That's a terrible comparison
 
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Scherf was like 300 lbs coming out of high school and was always projected to be a lineman. That's a terrible comparison

How about Ike Boettger? Rivals listed him at 6'5" 220 as a TE coming out of high school. Signed with the Bills as an UDFA even with his achilles injury last year.
 
Butler often found/will continue to find himself matched up in the slot/split end spot with a LB or Safety. ISU ran quite a few 4 WR sets, and i'd imagine they will continue to do so. Really forces the defenses hand.

And yes, I'm sure they want the TE's to be more of a threat, but with the lack of TE's being recruited (2019 will be their 4th class and they have recruited 3 scholarship TE's in those 4 classes, and likely won't take one in 2019) it kind of validates my point of big WR being the mismatch moving forward.


You could be right. With Lazard moving on, it stands to reason Butler would receive more attention from the top CBs this year. Admittedly, I don't know what the rest of your group looks like, so I'll defer to you.

I guess I'm a bit biased when it comes to the value of the TE position. Since Ferentz became the head coach, 14 TEs have been drafted or signed with NFL teams. Soon to be 15 and possibly 16.
 
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How about Ike Boettger? Rivals listed him at 6'5" 220 as a TE coming out of high school. Signed with the Bills as an UDFA even with his achilles injury last year.

Boettger's best year was honorable mention all conference. Allen was second team all conference as a freshman
 
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You could be right. With Lazard moving on, it stands to reason Butler would receive more attention from the top CBs this year. Admittedly, I don't know what the rest of your group looks like, so I'll defer to you.

I guess I'm a bit biased when it comes to the value of the TE position. Since Ferentz became the head coach, 14 TEs have been drafted or signed with NFL teams. Soon to be 15 and possibly 16.
I'm not arguing with you on the importance of Iowa's TE game, clearly it is important. I do think that if they had better options at WR the past few years then maybe the numbers wouldn't be as good. Regardless, they consistently have good TE's

The TE spot is also important at ISU and under CMC but til this point it has mostly been as blocking TE's (hence why Allen got all-conference). Soehner & Seonbuchner also are good blockers.

I don't know if they will try to get the TE's more involved in the passing game or not, but like I mentioned with their lack of recruiting #'s there it appears not.

ISU WR corps will have 6'6 Butler, 6'4 Matt Eaton, & DeShaunte Jones back as contributors from last year, with 6'3 Jalen Martin, and a host of others competing for time (including freshman 6'3 Joey Scates, and 6'6 Sean Shaw). They also have two 6'5 receivers and a 6'4 receiver committed, so that appears to be the route they're going moving forward.
 
I'm a bit intrigued by this. I'm asking this because I honestly don't know. Did he not want to switch positions coming to school?

A 6'6" TE that excels at blocking (taking your word for it) is a no brainier candidate to pack on some weight and slide over to OT at Iowa.

Not every school just turns every 6'6" kid into an OT like Iowa does. Some kids' frames will not take that kind of weight gain in a healthy way, but Iowa doesn't care about health as we found out with the whole Rhabdo thing. Winning>kids health at Iowa.

And as it's been pointed out to you over and over again, Chase Allen is a great TE already, so why would you move him? Last year the TE's were not involved in ISU's passing offense much because they were so loaded at WR. That could change this year, or maybe not, who knows? I can tell you this though, the blocking provided by Allen and Seonbuchner was huge last year.
 

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