Talley and Jackson seemed like the only 2 who gave any effort in the 2nd half.
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Absolutely not, but losing at home to Milwaukee by 18 and putting up 45 in Hilton is never acceptable even in rebuilding years.Did you expect a top half of the conference finish?
Anybody expecting anything above bottom 2, was being overly optimistic. Bottom of the conference teams don't go a full season without some bad losses, even "historically bad. "
Sorry to break up the pity party, but hasn't Prohm coached to B12 tournament championships. Let's keep at least a few facts on the table here.I think Prohm needs to contact Fred and ask him for those offensive plays he had penned on napkins while watching NBA games, when he was at ISU. Prohm is not going to win in the BIG 12 if he does not know how to run a smooth team offense.
Sorry to break up the pity party, but hasn't Prohm coached to B12 tournament championships. Let's keep at least a few facts on the table here.
But Joel Lanning is.
Can he play the 3?
I might get killed for this but at some point worrying/thinking it’s possible lard will transfer after the season isnt ludacris.
1 tournament championship. If you're using that one, you have to accept opening the can of worms that it wasn't his team. Then we have to have all the facts on the table.
No one's arguing to run him out right now, but there are valid concerns. He struggled mightily to run offense with last year's team and this year's, the inbounds plays are a continuing mystery, and the defense is a constant issue.
Next year will have more talent, but if the excuse of youth is vaild, then we have another year of problems in a sport where you shouldn't expect multiple years of problems.
Why?I might get killed for this but at some point worrying/thinking it’s possible lard will transfer after the season isnt ludacris.
And please explain how a coach is supposed to do this? And I mean exactly - no fluff, no theory, just explain to us - and Steve- exactly how you would do this? Does anyone not recall the years of Dejean Jones or Mackay. People like you wanted to crucify Fred because he didn't "handle" those guys properly. Very tired of arm chair coaches who think they have all the answers. Do you even know Prohm; is it even possible for you to look at his total performance since he came here, rather than 2 or 3 recent games? Sheesh, posts like this are frustrating.Prohm sets the tone, and when leadership doesn't naturally occur he puts it in place. Lack of heart, drive and desire is a reflection of his leadership
I think we’re a little behind in the coaching department. Next years talent should help hide that a little better than this year.We need to keep upgrading our talent level. It’s obvious that we’re far behind currently.
Ridiculous comment! How can you possibly say that Solo or LW did not give any effort. If this game was a low point, than this thread is the same. Plain ridiculous.Talley and Jackson seemed like the only 2 who gave any effort in the 2nd half.
I might get killed for this but at some point worrying/thinking it’s possible lard will transfer after the season isnt ludacris.
Does anyone not recall the years of Dejean Jones or Mackay. People like you wanted to crucify Fred because he didn't "handle" those guys properly.
And please explain how a coach is supposed to do this? And I mean exactly - no fluff, no theory, just explain to us - and Steve- exactly how you would do this? Does anyone not recall the years of Dejean Jones or Mackay. People like you wanted to crucify Fred because he didn't "handle" those guys properly. Very tired of arm chair coaches who think they have all the answers
I don’t want him too and I understand. This day in age that doesn’t always matter and clearly there something between CSP and Lard. Again I’m just saying it’s somsthjng to think about and is possibleWhy?
He's already used a redshirt year. He's too good to sit out another year. Plus he knows he's a future star on this team.
Attitudes won't change on another team.
You say never acceptable, so does that mean we need to fire Prohm on the spot? It's a loss. A very bad one, but that's what young, not good teams do. They lose, and sometimes when everything goes against you, you end up with historically bad losses. They also beat a top 10 team in Hilton by more than any Hoiberg, Eustachy, or Floyd team.Absolutely not, but losing at home to Milwaukee by 18 and putting up 45 in Hilton is never acceptable even in rebuilding years.
I wouldn’t think he would transfer just go make money playing professional...school is obviously not his strong suit anywaysI don’t want him too and I understand. This day in age that doesn’t always matter and clearly there something between CSP and Lard. Again I’m just saying it’s somsthjng to think about and is possible
Nope, and I figured you would say that. But these performances shouldn’t be forgotten if failures rack up in the future. Nobody is saying fire Prohm right now. Some are still nervous about our future and I think that’s perfectly reasonable.You say never acceptable, so does that mean we need to fire Prohm on the spot? It's a loss. A very bad one, but that's what young, not good teams do. They lose, and sometimes when everything goes against you, you end up with historically bad losses. They also beat a top 10 team in Hilton by more than any Hoiberg, Eustachy, or Floyd team.