Injuries, frustration huddle with Hawkeyes

I do not think they will have a good team. I do believe they play a very easy schedule this year though. I saw highlights of the scrimmage showing Green running the ball. The defense missed with several bad arm tackles or perhaps he would have had less than his 1.9 yard per carry average. I hope the defense uses the same tackling skills when we play them. They are one injury away from having only true freshmen as running backs. Of course, one of there best years was when they had almost no running game, but I do not believe they have the QB or enough healthy recievers to be successful throwing the ball 70% of the time this year.
 
totally agree...they'll be a good front 7, the DB's, meh, IDK. But I see no proof that would make one think they'll be the best front 7 in iowa's history.

BTW - I think you meant to say Edds has been underrated most of his career?

No, I meant overrated. IIRC, he was a pretty big recruit for them. I was trying to say that other than King and maybe Kroul, there isn't much to get excited about with that front 7, IMO.
 
No, I meant overrated. IIRC, he was a pretty big recruit for them. I was trying to say that other than King and maybe Kroul, there isn't much to get excited about with that front 7, IMO.

No, you don't recall correctly, since Edds was a fairly anonymous recruit, signed as a tight end.

Maybe you're thinking of gaudy LB signee Jeremiha Hunter, somewhere in the two deep.

As far as the "rest of the line", Ballard and Clayborn were also highly rated signees, now stepping in as the starting ends as sophs and looking like they'll be terrors. You might be a bit misinformed. Can't really blame you if you are in Carolina.

First rule of warfare: Know thine enemy.

Edit: I see you said "front seven". Well, they've got as much speed in their new linebackers as we do. Plenty for them to be excited about. On defense, anyway.
 
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Iowa will win the first two games with ease. Then comes ISU. This game will be GIGANTIC for Iowa. If we beat them at Kinnick, they will then lose at Pittsburgh for sure IMO.

At that point, Iowa will be 2-2 and here will be the test.... are these players going to play hard and play together for KF? I think KF is very frustrated right now with all the off-the-field issues, the injuries, and last year's season in general. At 2-2, will the team be thinking "here we go again", or will they be able to keep it together... along with KF? That will be the question.

The Iowa game will not be as big of a game for ISU IMO... especially if we start 2-0 as well. Obviously winning the game will be huge, but losing will not hurt ISU as bad as it would Iowa. I think ISU could come back from a loss at Iowa and still pull out a win at UNLV the following week to go 3-1. I doubt very much that Iowa will be able to come off a loss at home to ISU and go on the road and beat a very good Pittsburgh team.

I think Iowa is at best an 8 win team this year... but at worst, if KF loses this team, they could win as little as 4 as well.
 
No, you don't recall correctly, since Edds was a fairly anonymous recruit, signed as a tight end.

Maybe you're thinking of gaudy LB signee Jeremiha Hunter, somewhere in the two deep.

As far as the "rest of the line", Ballard and Clayborn were also highly rated signees, now stepping in as the starting ends as sophs and looking like they'll be terrors. You might be a bit misinformed. Can't really blame you if you are in Carolina.

First rule of warfare: Know thine enemy.

Edit: I see you said "front seven". Well, they've got as much speed in their new linebackers as we do. Plenty for them to be excited about. On defense, anyway.

Well, whatever. I guess I need to brush up on my Hawkeye recruiting. :confused:

My point is that Hawk fans are proclaiming this group as the greatest in history, yet there is very little experience outside of King, Kroul, and Edds and even less actual production out of most of these guys. It's one thing to be excited about a guy's potential, it's quite another to call them the greatest in history before they've played a snap.
 
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Injuries like this, this early is not good for hawk fans. It will only be a few more weeks and hawk fans will realize what everyone on this board already knew- Iowa stinks.:arghh:

Iowa never stinks - they're just screwed by the refs conspiring their demise all the time...
 
My favorite part of the article was the caption for the picture:

Iowa freshman quarterback Tom Donatell (13) pulls down freshman defensive back William Lowe (10) during a scrimmage Saturday at Iowa Hawkeyes Kids 'Day at Kinnick Stadium in Iowa City.

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Iowa wins 7 games this year and goes to the Insight bowl. They have never been there before so the fans will travel well. Then things will be fine.

I don't buy things are as bad as they seem. Yes they will not be a 10 win team, but without Mich and OSU on the schedule 7 wins is very probable for them. I almost wish we had them at the end of the season so our QB situtation was more stable.

Their defense will be very tough and there offense will probably be bad. It will be OK if when they get their players healed up. (if)

This schedule is as easy if not easier then the schedule that they had last season. That being said I am thinking maybe 4 or 5 wins for the Hawks. Should be a humbling year for them in Kirk's adios tour before he get's his pink slip.
 
The one that gets played a lot here is the "missed first free throw-Kansas good three-pointer-ISU gets to take its second free throw." Very different from "omygawd-replay shows we should get that onside kick" argument.

HEY!! that second example is True!!! Because I have read it SOOOOO many times, it has to be fact.:skeptical:

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The one that gets played a lot here is the "missed first free throw-Kansas good three-pointer-ISU gets to take its second free throw." Very different from "omygawd-replay shows we should get that onside kick" argument.

Eh, if you would have watched that game, Iowa did actually recover the onside kick - according to the announcers, the coaches, and the reffs apologized later for their bad call.

Regardless, I guarantee you, if you look through 90% of ISU's post game threads for losses over the past year, you will see at least half a dozen posts blaming the reffs.
 
Eh, if you would have watched that game, Iowa did actually recover the onside kick - according to the announcers, the coaches, and the reffs apologized later for their bad call.

Regardless, I guarantee you, if you look through 90% of ISU's post game threads for losses over the past year, you will see at least half a dozen posts blaming the reffs.

Still complaining about a poor call from a game that was played 2 years ago? Only a Hawk fan.

Figured I better edit this one. An alleged poor call. There we go.
 
Eh, if you would have watched that game, Iowa did actually recover the onside kick - according to the announcers, the coaches, and the reffs apologized later for their bad call.

IIRC the issue wasn't that Iowa recovered it - it was that they were penalized because they had recovered it after the kick traveled 9.9 yards instead of the full 10. Angle of the replay showed was inconclusive, so the call on the field had to stand.

Regardless, I guarantee you, if you look through 90% of ISU's post game threads for losses over the past year, you will see at least half a dozen posts blaming the reffs.

Really? What site have YOU been visiting? Over the last year I can guarantee you that 99% of those posts refer to how much our players suck/how our players don't stack up to the competition yet/how our players are progressing, but aren't there yet/how much our current coaching staff sucks, but you'd be hard pressed to find 90% of postgame threads containing dozens of posts ripping on the officials. You might find one or two threads with dozens ripping the officials and/or several threads with one or two posts ripping the officials, but there isn't even CLOSE to 90% of our postgame threads with dozens of posts ripping officiating as the main reason why we lost the game.
 
IIRC the issue wasn't that Iowa recovered it - it was that they were penalized because they had recovered it after the kick traveled 9.9 yards instead of the full 10. Angle of the replay showed was inconclusive, so the call on the field had to stand.



Really? What site have YOU been visiting? Over the last year I can guarantee you that 99% of those posts refer to how much our players suck/how our players don't stack up to the competition yet/how our players are progressing, but aren't there yet/how much our current coaching staff sucks, but you'd be hard pressed to find 90% of postgame threads containing dozens of posts ripping on the officials. You might find one or two threads with dozens ripping the officials and/or several threads with one or two posts ripping the officials, but there isn't even CLOSE to 90% of our postgame threads with dozens of posts ripping officiating as the main reason why we lost the game.

Then you need to check again. I said at least half a dozen posts. Given, in the blow out losses you see nothing about the reffs, but in the close losses, you see a good number of comments about how ISU got worked over, how they always get the short end of the stick. Heck, even in that thread I posted for you, your own ISU fans were even saying how ISU fans always boo because they always get the short end of the stick.
 
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This schedule is as easy if not easier then the schedule that they had last season. That being said I am thinking maybe 4 or 5 wins for the Hawks. Should be a humbling year for them in Kirk's adios tour before he get's his pink slip.

Iowa actually has more top 25 opponents than ISU.

Iowa - Wisconsin, Illinois, Penn State, Pitt

ISU - Mizzu, Texas Tech, Kansas
 

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