OK - who wins the game on Sept. 9th ?
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Both Iowa and ISU are coming off home losses to an FCS team.
Ask Nebraska, I know they wanted him bad as an LB.
Lol Iowa always wears down as the season goes on. I have no clue why Hawkeye fans praise Doyle when all he does is make them look slow and fatigued at the end of the year every year.
I didn't expect an actual bet.
This is surprising, you post what you think, so I know you are thinking this is true. Yet how can you say there is no proof. The fact the Hawks didn't RS Fant, shows how much talent he has at a school known for TE talent, and who RS 95% of its TE. He also got lots of playing time and Hawks fans actually saw what he can do. Sure 9 catches isn't much, but the last true FR TE at Iowa to play was Tony Moeaki and he had 8 catches is FR year.
Allen has literally don't nothing, it is all fans hopes on this. I didn't expect anything out of Fant last year before I saw him play a snap. Now that I have I at least know what we have in this kid. You have no clue on Allen.
Iowa State is coming off MULTIPLE home losses to FCS teams.
Why would I ask Nebraska? He's not the starting MLB there.
The pass pro at Iowa the last two years has been terrible. 2 years ago with good WR we could pass the ball. We passed the ball just fine last year until Vandeberg and Kittle went down. Heck you saw it vs ISU, Vandeberg killed you guys last year.
At least you admit Iowa TE > ISU TE, so that is good.
How are you going to determine who is better? hok fans have already displayed we can't use stats because the big 12 is a no defense league
This is true. Iowa is 7-1 in November the last two years. Iowa hasn't done well in Jan lately that is for sure. Not sure how that could be conditioning as it is nearly a full month after the season.
ISU was better in Nov last year as well. Heck without Nov last year are ISU fans even excited about this year.
Catches and yard is the easy one. It is more difficult for ISU fans to quantify what a good blocking TE brings to the table as they have never had one. I think It will be pretty clear Fant is better, but we will see I guess.
Rugamba has some raw natural ability, I"ll grant you that. I wouldn't say at this point of his young career that you can straight up compare him with Peavy, maybe after a full season of starting, we'll see. And the other side of the field I wouldn't be so sure about. Iowa's secondary won't be a strength of the defense this season IMO
Hmmm...let's do some problem solving here.
Every year they're better at the end of the year.
Every year they play at least one B12 team at the start of the year and none at the end.
Every year they play no Big 10 teams at the start and only Big 10 teams at the end.
I can't remember a scholarship TE that made our 2-deep since Bibbs. I can't remember the reasons, probably some combo of attrition/failed development that the Rhoads staff was renowned for.
Derp!
ISU was better at the end of last year. Beginning of the year ISU had to play a FCS school and a BigTen school and they sucked then. When ISU played Big12 schools they "improved"
See I can do that too, Derp!
Bad pass pro and poor WRs should help the TE as the QB should be dumping the ball.
How could iowa have the best OL in college have have bad pass pro? That's crazy.
Vandenburg has killed us every year. The most painful was two years ago when he picked on Cotton time and time and time again on 3rd down.
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There is hardly any proof at all. If you think that burning a redshirt for 9 catches and 70 yards justifies him being better than Chase Allen then by all means go ahead.
If Chase Allen only catches 9 passes this year, I'll be disappointed. He was surely going to play as a true freshman before getting hit by a car and getting the mumps, which caused him to lose a bunch of weight.
I think Chase Allen and Dylan Soehner will help the ISU tight ends quite a bit this year.
Really there is nothing to take from iSu's first two games last year They were awful. The UNI game was the worst game I have ever seen iSu play. 9 penalties, 2 fumbles, an INT and we actually had a WR and RB run into each other. I'll take a page from the iowa fanbook and say UNI did not beat iSu last year...iSu beat iSu.
The staff was trying to figure out exactly what they had and they hadn't found it yet. The OL was reworked after iowa. Park was overcoming the mumps. Warren was pouting. Those first two games were ugly.
I understand hok fan not realizing iSu got better. hok fans are like most big tin fans and watch very little football outside of their own conference. Heck, most fans don't watch much football outside of their own conference.