Depends on how the season starts out. But if it starts out well, I agree with you
Iowa Football Recruiting
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But ISU needs the Iowa game to survive right? Lol. I'm still bitter Barta wouldn't let ISU out of it for one year so they could schedule another opponent.
Just saying that punter and kicker bring down the averages. Campbell said last year's recruiting class was his best ever as a coach, and that includes his stint at Toledo.
I am happy with our recruiting under Campbell. We are seeing a talent upgrade with our Campbell recruits. We will be improved this year and will be even better in 2018.
The future looks bright.
They should be included.
But even the best kickers in the nation bog down their class average Composite.
I'm sure if Iowa had a kicker or punter bringing down their average you'd be taking a different stance on it but such is life.
No, I wouldnt. Its just another way for ISU fans to try and skew the rankings in their favor. When comparing the Iowa and ISU classes for 2017, some posters over here actually suggested removing Epenesa from Iowa's ranking as he is a legacy and thats the only reason he ended up at Iowa.
Too small a sample size to form an opinion. He seems to be a decent/good recruiter. Not sure I'm sold on him being a great game day coach. Granted I only watched two full ISU games last year (Iowa and WVU), saw lots of dumb self inflicted penalties. I'm not sure if those were were the exception or the norm for ISU last year.
It's skewing the rankings to say that a kicker and punter bring down the class Composite?
How about it's just common sense?
I respect that. I just find it funny that it seems most Hawkeye fans think either a) ISU will win 6 games this year or b) Campbell could be the guy to have some success and then leave as soon as he gets a better offer but then constantly criticize his every move. Back in the 2000's I thought KF was a great coach so it's not like I'd be talking smack about him all the time.
I don't know if you were around for this last season or not, but we've gone back and forth on this topic already. Understanding the term outlier is basically impossible for some people.
What matters is how well is isu recruiting against teams on their schedule. Does isu consistently have better recruiting classes than any of them except maybe KU? If you are going to pin your hopes on a talent upgrade then where is it? Just comparing it to what isu or Toledo has done in the past is meaningless unless those are the only teams you are going to play.
Iowa doesn't focus on recruiting as the basis for how we will compete. Iowa is a developmental program and that is where we make our bets. Iowa believes they can out develop other schools with more talent at be competitive. The number of national award winners, All-Americans and NFL draft picks show this to be working fairly well. No wonder isu coaches were pushing people out of the way this spring to get a front row seat to hear Doyle talk about how to develop players.
According to Hawk posters, anything positive about Iowa State football is fake news.
Not really. Iowa had kickers and punters in the last recruiting class and still out performed isu by a hefty distance.
If anything positive about isu football actually turned out to be accurate you would have a point. The history on isu going back to the 1970's however confirms that isu's rainbows and sunshine are fake news.
Iowa had a punter last season, but he wasn't the outlier that I was referencing.
Wonder why Hawkeyes posters are coming to a Cyclone Board to attempt to dampen enthusiasm?
Love Coach Campbell and the direction we are heading.
Hawkeyes need to focus on their train wreck of their basketball program. Getting rid of Dr. Tom Davis has put their program in the dumpster. Hawkeyes should be thankful they play football in the Big Ten's weak division.
Love Coach Campbell and the direction we are heading.
Hawkeyes need to focus on their train wreck of their basketball program. Getting rid of Dr. Tom Davis has put their program in the dumpster. Hawkeyes should be thankful they play football in the Big Ten's weak division.
We heard the same thing when Chizik and Rhoads were hired, love the optimism but forgive Iowa fans for being skeptical at another JP hire of a football coach.
You want to talk about a program in the dumpster, look no further than the worst P5 football program since JP fired McCarney, your very own ISU Cyclones.
Its so funny that ISU fans mock Iowa fans for being optimistic about the future of Iowa basketball when Iowa has made 3 of the last 4 NCAA tourneys and have highly ranked recruits coming in the next several cycles.
ISU football has won 8 games the past 3 seasons and has slightly improved their recruiting.
WHY do you come to a Cyclone Message Board, little brother? Why do you have a losing record to Iowa State in football over the last 19 years?