Lil Ferentz takes digs at ISU

Whatever ISU is doing is working because Campbell has recruited very well here so far

How does anyone know if he is recruiting well or not, just based on class ranking? You probably need 4-5 years to see how the recruits play out.
 
Classes that rank 7th and 8th in a 10 team conference is recruiting "very well".

What the hell happened to Raising the Standard?

For ISU and where we were at that is very well. This is the first year where the the standard is being raised to a whole new level
 
For ISU and where we were at that is very well. This is the first year where the the standard is being raised to a whole new level

It is a slight improvement from the Rhoads era of recruiting.

At least you have your specialists locked down for the 2018 class.
 
It is a slight improvement from the Rhoads era of recruiting.

At least you have your specialists locked down for the 2018 class.
Come on now. Don't hate on the specialists. They can help win games too.

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It's not even close.

How so? Its not easy to jump 3-5 spots in the conference standings when you are only jumping 1-2 spots in recruiting.

I mean KF and Iowa were in a BCS Bowl in Year 4 and their recruiting rankings were towards the bottom of the B1G at the time but that type of turnaround cant be expected.
 
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Why do you think the Big 12 will be worse this year?

It was down this year, and I just think it is trending down. That happens with conferences they are down a few years, back up, etc.

This really bothers ISU fan for some reason, I have never experienced a fan base more tied to Conference Pride than ISU. Maybe it is because they never contribute to the conference strength, but man you guys sure like to tell everyone just how impossibly hard it is for ISU to win in the Big12.
 
If you look at the amount of recruits that ever saw meaningful snaps in the Rhoads era, you'd be able to (maybe even through your Hok troll glasses) see why it was extra poor.

IMO CPR and his staff did a pretty decent job recruiting the skill positions (minus QB) but the O-line and D-line recruiting was flat out awful. CMC is bringing in guys in the trenches that don't need to add 30-40 pounds before they are serviceable, he's bringing in legit lineman that will require some development but not a complete body overhaul. I'm convinced that all of the knee problems our o-lineman had under CPR was due to the weight that was packed onto those guys.
 
IMO CPR and his staff did a pretty decent job recruiting the skill positions (minus QB) but the O-line and D-line recruiting was flat out awful. CMC is bringing in guys in the trenches that don't need to add 30-40 pounds before they are serviceable, he's bringing in legit lineman that will require some development but not a complete body overhaul. I'm convinced that all of the knee problems our o-lineman had under CPR was due to the weight that was packed onto those guys.
The number of guys who transferred or just never made an impact on game day is outrageous.
 
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It was down this year, and I just think it is trending down. That happens with conferences they are down a few years, back up, etc.

This really bothers ISU fan for some reason, I have never experienced a fan base more tied to Conference Pride than ISU. Maybe it is because they never contribute to the conference strength, but man you guys sure like to tell everyone just how impossibly hard it is for ISU to win in the Big12.

I hope the Big 12 is down this year but I don't expect it to be. I think it will be better than last year
 
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If you look at the amount of recruits that ever saw meaningful snaps in the Rhoads era, you'd be able to (maybe even through your Hok troll glasses) see why it was extra poor.

ISU fans lectured Iowa for 5 years on how great Rhoads was. He was the second coming. Iowa was shaking in their boots, the almighty Rhoads was gonna dominate the state. He got Iowa's best recruit 3 years in a row.

Now ISU fans pretends they never spouted these platitudes. That CMC is just so different than any coach before him, that the fans had never believed in a coach so much before. Iowa is shaking in their boots, cause CMC is so awesome.

It is the same crap, different name. Wash, rinse, repeat.
 

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