***Official Big 12 Expansion Thread '16***
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They are clearly stronger than the B12 on a number of fronts.
-Their teams are geographically not a good fit for joining the B1G/SEC/ACC
-Much stronger academics
-A history of adding teams vs losing key teams
The B12 is the clear weak hand now that it's been determined that OU and Texas won't extend GOR.
You don't need to extend when you're the one setting the pace financially. GOR is for adding stability to the more unstable P5 conferences like the B12, P12 and ACC.
The lack of GOR extension isn't great news but the impact won't become apparent until at least 2021. So no reason to spend the next five years stressing about it. And by then we'll know if the Pac-12 Network has become successful and if the ACC network has gotten of the ground.
I would add that the PAC 12 has 8 of the country's 30 largest TV markets. The B12 has 2 in Houston and DFW. Most of our conference is fly-over territory.
http://www.stationindex.com/tv/tv-markets
FYI, should Notre Dame ever decide to join a conference, they are contractually obligated to join the ACC.
They have large markets that don't care much about college sports.
SIAP
http://newsok.com/blame-ou-and-texas-for-big-12-instability/article/5521024
Blame OU and Texas for Big 12 instability - Daily Oklahoman
http://newsok.com/blame-ou-and-texas-for-big-12-instability/article/5521024
Blame OU and Texas for Big 12 instability - Daily Oklahoman
How in the world is a Gopher fan the source of knowledge from goings on at OU?
So that is a crap load of tweets, can someone summarize? I see basically OU and UT, cannot leave unless other schools have a landing spot and networks will need to work out something?
Well a million more people watched the USC game than the ISU v. Baylor game.
Probably apples to oranges because of the channel and time slot too
The most recent tweet is probably the most poignant, assuming any of this is accurate:
So what this guy is saying is that there is a "relief plan" being negotiated with the understanding that all parties will dissolve the current GOR in 2 years. The relief plan has two facets:
So the idea is OU and UT leave, but the remaining schools would stay in the Big 12, because this guy is saying no other conference wants to take on the 8 remaining schools. A conference network would be created (probably what we are making now), P5 status remains (I don't know how that would be possible without UT and OU) and a new GOR would be created that runs through 2035. Sounds great to me. Sounds terrible for the networks and doesn't seem practical.
Big 12 schools not named Texas or OU are willing to let them leave free of charge in the next 24 months in exchange for extending the current GOR for another ten years. Payout will be increased for new members, but not pro rata.
That's how I understood it anyways.
Thanks appreciate all the translation.
I think the other 8 would sue the pants off OU/UT, networks for breaking the agreement, and then this gets congress involved, they start talking about non profit status etc
Guess will see what happens, but the other schools will not take this lying down.
I imagine the idea is more of an acknowledgement that OU and UT will leave in 2025 regardless, so letting them leave instead in 2020 in exchange for getting support from the networks through 2035 could be smart.
Also I find it very interesting that the random Twitter account lumps KU in with OU and UT. That makes no sense to me. Again I am reminded that this is a random Twitter account.
Lol, are you really just posting a no context link to a random gopher fan's twitter account because they are tweeting a bunch as if they are in the know? Come the **** on.
Not sure how a "relief plan" makes any sense to Big12 schools other than Texas & OU. The current Big12 contract represents the highest revenue option for schools like ISU, KSU, etc that wouldn't be invited to join the SEC or Big10. The ACC and Pac12 might seem more stable, but their TV Rights deals are worth less than the Big12 TV contract.
IMO there is no rush for realignment to occur by either P5 schools or the TV Networks. Money drives realignment and the TV Rights environment is uncetain right now. We see cord cutting, potential FCC changes impacting Satelite/Cable revenue streams and we may be seeing a downturn in college/NFL viewership because of oversaturation.
The first test will be ESPN's ability to launch the ACC linear Network in 2019. Followed by the Big10 TV negotiations, which may include scenarios with increased TV rights value if UT, OU, etc would be added.
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I read it differently. The other P5 don't want 8 of the 10 Big 12 schools. Which would be the 8 votes needed to dissolve the conference. Rather, as many as possible will negotiate a P5 spot. The leftovers will get a buyout of the current GOR from the schools that are leaving that guarantees money through 2035. Doesn't say how many will get P5 spots but does say this:
I truly hate the business of college athletics