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But how can any fan, just accept these things as out of my hands?? Even being an alum, I would recheck my alliances...!!!!!
If a member of your family gets caught and convicted of domestic violence, do you just automatically disown them and pretend they were never a part of your life?

For most people, that's a no. I get that this is a very extreme example, but for some people, it's not far off from their line of thinking. Fans support their schools both through good times and bad times. Now, there's the people like those mentioned above who think the school did nothing wrong, or Briles should still have his job, or what-have-you of that stuff -- that's a different story. For what I imagine is "the normal fan", it doesn't make sense to just give up and move on to another team -- that's outrageous, and it's asking a lot to change what you have believed in for what is likely your entire life. I'm willing to bet that if ISU was in Baylor's place, you and many others (whom are crucifying Baylor) would be acting the same as most Baylor fans: sticking with the team, and just waiting for everything to go away (regardless of what measures that takes, whether it's underpenalizing the team, or receiving the death penalty). Someone above brought up SMU, look at them: football team has received the death penalty, and the basketball team has gotten into large trouble on multiple occasions -- they still have a decently loyal fanbase after all of those shenanigans.

People make mistakes, dumb decisions, and some people are just simply bad people. But, at the end of the day, fans will stay fans. The sun will still come up the next morning. Many fans are empathetic to the victims of the sexual abuse ordeals, and many fans are just normal people -- they will still be fans, even if they realize the evils that the school has been involved in.
 
I blame the NCAA just as much as anyone else. If there were strong sanctions placed with extreme consequences for coaches crap wouldn't happen. But, they [NCAA] were more concerned w/ fighting players who wanted a small part of the cash earned from the selling of their number and face to companies for big $$$$. It's all about the $$$$ and only the $$$$.
 
If a member of your family gets caught and convicted of domestic violence, do you just automatically disown them and pretend they were never a part of your life?

For most people, that's a no. I get that this is a very extreme example, but for some people, it's not far off from their line of thinking. Fans support their schools both through good times and bad times. Now, there's the people like those mentioned above who think the school did nothing wrong, or Briles should still have his job, or what-have-you of that stuff -- that's a different story. For what I imagine is "the normal fan", it doesn't make sense to just give up and move on to another team -- that's outrageous, and it's asking a lot to change what you have believed in for what is likely your entire life. I'm willing to bet that if ISU was in Baylor's place, you and many others (whom are crucifying Baylor) would be acting the same as most Baylor fans: sticking with the team, and just waiting for everything to go away (regardless of what measures that takes, whether it's underpenalizing the team, or receiving the death penalty). Someone above brought up SMU, look at them: football team has received the death penalty, and the basketball team has gotten into large trouble on multiple occasions -- they still have a decently loyal fanbase after all of those shenanigans.

People make mistakes, dumb decisions, and some people are just simply bad people. But, at the end of the day, fans will stay fans. The sun will still come up the next morning. Many fans are empathetic to the victims of the sexual abuse ordeals, and many fans are just normal people -- they will still be fans, even if they realize the evils that the school has been involved in.
If it was just this, maybe not, but this was sexual abuse, along with that, pieces of the puzzle covered it up and this was multiple accounts, then you have db thugs like Zamora not learning from all the programs scrutiny and issues and more ridiculous activities...
Plus the SMU thing is way old news and I know they lost of ton of backing through their 'death penalty'..... To me Baylor is no different.....
 
If it was just this, maybe not, but this was sexual abuse, along with that, pieces of the puzzle covered it up and this was multiple accounts, then you have db thugs like Zamora not learning from all the programs scrutiny and issues and more ridiculous activities...
Plus the SMU thing is way old news and I know they lost of ton of backing through their 'death penalty'..... To me Baylor is no different.....
Is Iowa State any different, if we did the same things? Would you just toss your life-long fanhood aside?
 
Is Iowa State any different, if we did the same things? Would you just toss your life-long fanhood aside?
Absolutely not, the program would go on suspension for me too. If Iowa State was going through a similar cover-up, sexual assault thing, I would drop my fandom and support till they cleaned it up. More than that, it is private Baptist school.....
 
I blame the NCAA just as much as anyone else. If there were strong sanctions placed with extreme consequences for coaches crap wouldn't happen. But, they [NCAA] were more concerned w/ fighting players who wanted a small part of the cash earned from the selling of their number and face to companies for big $$$$. It's all about the $$$$ and only the $$$$.
The problem is the NCAA has no jurisdiction. It is the same reason why UNC won't be penalized.
 
Is Iowa State any different, if we did the same things? Would you just toss your life-long fanhood aside?

Imagine what this board would look like if Lazard beat a dog, and you'll have your answer. It'd be 90% pro-dog.

We're not insane about football like Texans are.
 
Is Iowa State any different, if we did the same things? Would you just toss your life-long fanhood aside?

I would not toss the fanhood regardless. But if I were be in Baylor fan's place, I would understand and agree that the HC needed to go. I do think that our AD is smart enough to get ahead of the controversy and make the moves necessary before it becomes a national story. ISU would not be in the business of covering things up.
 

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