Hawkeyes Basketball

Really smart and well-timed loss for Iowa, positions us nicely... wait, we won, nevermind.

That's a really high-quality road win for us. Tough Michigan team, in their place playing for their lives, nothing comes easy in the B1G especially on the road.

a Michigan team decimated by injuries and defections to the NBA. Iowa beat a skeleton of their squad 3-4 years ago.

Iowa plays anyone with gumption--a healthy team, they'd lose

They travel up to Mich St tomorrow, they'd be trucked by 20 points
 
Rutgers would probably disagree. I also think Minny, Penn State AND Nebby would fit that bill as well. They are all the TCUs of the B1G.


umm Minnesota just lost to gawd-awful Rutgers by 23 yesterday

Same sh#t minnesota team who almost beat Iowa

and no....TCU isn't them. TCU better than several Big 10 teams
 
TCU would end in the upper half of the big ten.

You might not be wrong. Michigan won 10 games in the Big 10 this year, and eight (!) of those came from beating Minnesota twice, Penn State twice, Illinois, Rutgers, Nebraska and Northwestern. Their only noteworthy wins were Purdue and Maryland.
 
You might not be wrong. Michigan won 10 games in the Big 10 this year, and eight (!) of those came from beating Minnesota twice, Penn State twice, Illinois, Rutgers, Nebraska and Northwestern. Their only noteworthy wins were Purdue and Maryland.

Arizona St. alum here (I live in Des Moines and follow Iowa college sports, also infatuated with the Iowa/ISU rivalry because I miss the daily AZ/ASU rivalry interaction, and even when I lived there, that rivalry couldn't hold a candle to this Iowa one) trying to give an objective view on the Big Ten. I have said ever since the conference expanded to 14 that in basketball, this will be the most lopsided conference in the nation between good and bad and I think this year proved to be right. These bottom six teams are absolutely awful and are usually bad every year (Rutgers, Minnesota, Illinois, Penn St, Nebraska, and Northwestern). It makes the conference as a whole very average. The process of a non round robin schedule helps teams like Michigan and Indiana who got to play the better teams only once, and your success on a certain year relies heavily on your schedule. The Big 12 is the best basketball conference in the nation and probably will be most years because you have to look at it as a whole and 80% of it's teams are on the bubble or were at one point on the bubble. And also, you have to play each team twice. However, if the the top 8 teams in the Big 10 matched up with the top 8 teams in the Big 12 or the Pac 12, I think it would be be a 4-4 split, or close to it. But that is ifs and buts, Big 12 is hands down the best overall conference this year and will probably be most years if they keep the 10 teams and the round robin format.
 
Arizona St. alum here (I live in Des Moines and follow Iowa college sports, also infatuated with the Iowa/ISU rivalry because I miss the daily AZ/ASU rivalry interaction, and even when I lived there, that rivalry couldn't hold a candle to this Iowa one) trying to give an objective view on the Big Ten. I have said ever since the conference expanded to 14 that in basketball, this will be the most lopsided conference in the nation between good and bad and I think this year proved to be right. These bottom six teams are absolutely awful and are usually bad every year (Rutgers, Minnesota, Illinois, Penn St, Nebraska, and Northwestern). It makes the conference as a whole very average. The process of a non round robin schedule helps teams like Michigan and Indiana who got to play the better teams only once, and your success on a certain year relies heavily on your schedule. The Big 12 is the best basketball conference in the nation and probably will be most years because you have to look at it as a whole and 80% of it's teams are on the bubble or were at one point on the bubble. And also, you have to play each team twice. However, if the the top 8 teams in the Big 10 matched up with the top 8 teams in the Big 12 or the Pac 12, I think it would be be a 4-4 split, or close to it. But that is ifs and buts, Big 12 is hands down the best overall conference this year and will probably be most years if they keep the 10 teams and the round robin format.

Luckily the basketball committee has more experience recognizing those factors. Football committee is still catching up.
 
However, if the the top 8 teams in the Big 10 matched up with the top 8 teams in the Big 12 or the Pac 12, I think it would be be a 4-4 split, or close to it.

I disagree:
Kansas > Indiana
West Virginia < Michigan St
Oklahoma = Maryland
Texas > Wisconsin
Iowa St > Iowa
Baylor > Purdue
Texas Tech > Ohio St
Kansas St = Michigan

I see one solid win from Michigan St, and two maybes from Maryland and Michigan. Obviously we can't know for sure, because they won't play, but just comparing resumes, Big 12 would dominate.
 
I disagree:
Kansas > Indiana
West Virginia < Michigan St
Oklahoma = Maryland
Texas > Wisconsin
Iowa St > Iowa
Baylor > Purdue
Texas Tech > Ohio St
Kansas St = Michigan

I see one solid win from Michigan St, and two maybes from Maryland and Michigan. Obviously we can't know for sure, because they won't play, but just comparing resumes, Big 12 would dominate.

You have a point when you match them up according to seeds like that. I do think Wisconsin would beat Texas right now, but otherwise good point.
 
I disagree:
Kansas > Indiana
West Virginia < Michigan St
Oklahoma = Maryland
Texas > Wisconsin
Iowa St > Iowa
Baylor > Purdue
Texas Tech > Ohio St
Kansas St = Michigan

I see one solid win from Michigan St, and two maybes from Maryland and Michigan. Obviously we can't know for sure, because they won't play, but just comparing resumes, Big 12 would dominate.
I disagree. Wisconsin is better than Texas, I'd say we are even with Iowa, Michigan would beat KSU by at least 10, Purdue and Baylor are even, and I think OSU and TTU is a toss up. Don't forget that Michigan beat Texas on a neutral site(with LaVert). Rest are fine.
 
I'd love a yearly Big 12 - B1G challenge.

Would make more sense geographically (well, for the northernish teams).

I think if college football were to turn into more non-conference games being between Power 5 schools to help push for playoff consideration, something similar between the Big 12/10 would be fun. It generally is with Iowa/ISU, although that's because people are almost overwhelmingly crazy about it...that includes the 'this game is a lose-lose for us' Iowa crowd since it's the only game/team I've ever heard Iowa fans say that about, and it gets said often.
 
I disagree:
Kansas > Indiana
West Virginia < Michigan St
Oklahoma = Maryland
Texas > Wisconsin
Iowa St > Iowa
Baylor > Purdue
Texas Tech > Ohio St
Kansas St = Michigan

I see one solid win from Michigan St, and two maybes from Maryland and Michigan. Obviously we can't know for sure, because they won't play, but just comparing resumes, Big 12 would dominate.

Oklahoma would beat Maryland, I'm still not sure why people think Maryland is actually good.
 
I disagree. Wisconsin is better than Texas, I'd say we are even with Iowa, Michigan would beat KSU by at least 10, Purdue and Baylor are even, and I think OSU and TTU is a toss up. Don't forget that Michigan beat Texas on a neutral site(with LaVert). Rest are fine.

Tech is going to the tourney, Ohio State sucks. Wisconsin is not better than Texas either
 
I disagree:
Kansas > Indiana
West Virginia < Michigan St
Oklahoma = Maryland
Texas > Wisconsin
Iowa St > Iowa
Baylor > Purdue
Texas Tech > Ohio St
Kansas St = Michigan

I see one solid win from Michigan St, and two maybes from Maryland and Michigan. Obviously we can't know for sure, because they won't play, but just comparing resumes, Big 12 would dominate.

Woah - can you imagine a MSU vs WVU game? That game would take, like, 5.5 hours to play (100+ total FTs being shot; constant stoppage of play for nosebleeds & reviewing the monitor for possible Flagrant 1s or 2s; 8 stoppages of play to make sure Izzo and Thuggs haven't died from a heart attack or brain explosion). Might as well label that game basketBRAWL!
 
Arizona St. alum here (I live in Des Moines and follow Iowa college sports, also infatuated with the Iowa/ISU rivalry because I miss the daily AZ/ASU rivalry interaction, and even when I lived there, that rivalry couldn't hold a candle to this Iowa one) trying to give an objective view on the Big Ten. I have said ever since the conference expanded to 14 that in basketball, this will be the most lopsided conference in the nation between good and bad and I think this year proved to be right. These bottom six teams are absolutely awful and are usually bad every year (Rutgers, Minnesota, Illinois, Penn St, Nebraska, and Northwestern). It makes the conference as a whole very average. The process of a non round robin schedule helps teams like Michigan and Indiana who got to play the better teams only once, and your success on a certain year relies heavily on your schedule. The Big 12 is the best basketball conference in the nation and probably will be most years because you have to look at it as a whole and 80% of it's teams are on the bubble or were at one point on the bubble. And also, you have to play each team twice. However, if the the top 8 teams in the Big 10 matched up with the top 8 teams in the Big 12 or the Pac 12, I think it would be be a 4-4 split, or close to it. But that is ifs and buts, Big 12 is hands down the best overall conference this year and will probably be most years if they keep the 10 teams and the round robin format.
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