Tired of our last second offense

look, in nearly every close game our team has not looked prepared on their last possession. That's a coaching issue.

The Hoiberg vs Prohm thing is old but I'll use it in this case...when we came out of a time out with Fred, we knew what we were doing. When we come out of time outs with Prohm, we look lost and confused.

That's either Prohm or the guys on the floor...and I find it hard to believe it's the latter.

Also, what?!?! You think the guys on this team aren't capable of losing focus?
 
I too am tired of Monte's cavalier approach to late game situations, but people killing Prohm are conveniently forgetting Hoiberg's first year on the job. I remember talking to my father-in-law (who has gone to 90% of the games in the past couple of decades) questioning Hoiberg's coaching talent as he spent 75% of his time-outs conversing with the assistant coaches. Sure it was his first year coaching (at any level), but he didn't have all the answers in the Big12 either. I don't think the late game situations are a Prohm problem; they are the whole team's problem. Plus Prohm strikes me as a smart guy, he'll learn and improve.
 
You mean like the play that Thomas hit his only three on?

Prohm use the same play that worked against OSU on the last possession against TT. Monte didn't think the angle was there, so he pulled up. It was a horrible shot, but it wasn't the play Prohm drew up. Prohm went back to the play that worked late in the last game. The players didn't execute.


you listed one time it worked. the body of work on his time out plays is ****...so I'm not sure what your point is.
 
I'll also add that Monte's late game shots are almost identical to Kane's his year with us. But we all know how Kane's last shot against UNC turned out, so stay tuned.
 
Our offense is 3rd in Kenpom right now. We can talk about all of these situations we want but our issues are defense. This isn't new but now, instead of having mediocre UT, TT and WVU teams to play. We have those teams in great to bubble variations and we get got. Then you have Baylor who is also an exceptional offensive team.
 
He would be able to if he wasn't calling time outs with 4 minutes left after we make a 3 to gain momentum just so Baylor can get their s**t together.


The TO was taken with 2:45 left. Right before that 3, Baylor had an easy dunk on the other end with a guy that had been killing us all game. Additionally that 3 was our first points in almost 3 minutes, not like we were in the middle of putting our foot on their throats. ISU was down 2 and could not afford to be giving up easy points, the TO was for ISU to get their s**t together on defense.

After the timeout ISU got a steal and then scored, the momentum was not shifted by the TO. Baylor didn't make another FG in regulation after the TO, it actually worked out in our favor.
 
Also, count me in the group that doesn't get the timeouts after made shots. Why give them a chance to draw up their next play? Someone with the time or energy should chart out the next 2 minutes after those type of timeouts. Anecdotally,it seems to me the other team always seems to go on a run.


Because that is basically the only time a coach can call a timeout this year. The ball must be dead for a coach to call timeout under the new rules.

Some of the anger on this board for not taking timeout late game is misplaced when directed at Prohm. One of the players on the floor needed to call the timeout late in the game.

At some point because of the new rules our veterans need to play like veterans and value the ball, run good offense and make good decisions.
 
Because that is basically the only time a coach can call a timeout this year. The ball must be dead for a coach to call timeout under the new rules.

Some of the anger on this board for not taking timeout late game is misplaced when directed at Prohm. One of the players on the floor needed to call the timeout late in the game.

At some point because of the new rules our veterans need to play like veterans and value the ball, run good offense and make good decisions.

No it's not. He could call a timeout after the other team makes a basket during a 10-0 run like every other coach in America does.
 
No it's not. He could call a timeout after the other team makes a basket during a 10-0 run like every other coach in America does.

Just for my curiousity, did you have this same complaint when Hoiberg was here? Because he never called timeouts during other teams runs.
 
you listed one time it worked. the body of work on his time out plays is ****...so I'm not sure what your point is.

Hoiberg was special when it came to drawing up plays out of timeouts. That's not the norm. And we have had several well-executed plays out of timeouts this season, including one last night. I'm not going to hold it against Prohm because he's not as good at Hoiberg at drawing up set plays.
 
Just for my curiousity, did you have this same complaint when Hoiberg was here? Because he never called timeouts during other teams runs.

Blasphamy! No way man! Fred would NEVER, EVER let a team go on a 12-0 run like Baylor did last year in Hilton with out calling a timeout.

No chance. Zero. Zilch.
 
Hoiberg was special when it came to drawing up plays out of timeouts. That's not the norm. And we have had several well-executed plays out of timeouts this season, including one last night. I'm not going to hold it against Prohm because he's not as good at Hoiberg at drawing up set plays.


Ok. so you support my original post. why didn't you just say that earlier.
 

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