Seemingly never ending Iowa MBB thread (still going.....)

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Oh so now in order to be the best you have to be WAY more best than everyone else? Go move your goalposts elsewhere.

So you thought the Big 12 was impressive against the lowly SEC? Cause I for sure didn't.
 
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So the Big 12 is the best conference in college basketball but they're not as tough as people think?

The SEC has been the best football conference. Doesn't mean it's been the totally untouchable juggernaut that the media made it out to be. The same logic can easily apply to a basketball conference.
 
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So you thought the Big 12 was impressive against the lowly SEC? Cause I for sure didn't.

Well I'm smart enough to base my judgement on what matters; the RPI, and for you hok fans, Kenpom. Being "impressive" on one day of games doesn't mean crap either way.
 
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The SEC has been the best football conference. Doesn't mean it's been the totally untouchable juggernaut that the media made it out to be. The same logic can easily apply to a basketball conference.

Really? Are you comparing the media ball licking of the SEC in football to the Big 12 in basketball? LOL.

Go look at the numbers, it's right there. If the B10 was #1 in RPI and #1 in Kenpom I would have no problem saying they are the top conference.
 
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The SEC has been the best football conference. Doesn't mean it's been the totally untouchable juggernaut that the media made it out to be. The same logic can easily apply to a basketball conference.

I just think it's odd to come to an ISU fan site as an Iowa fan to say "I don't think the Big 12 is that tough" when it's the best conference in college basketball.
 
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The SEC has been the best football conference. Doesn't mean it's been the totally untouchable juggernaut that the media made it out to be. The same logic can easily apply to a basketball conference.

What??? The SEC has been totally dominate for at least 10 years now. No other conference can boast 11 national titles since 1998 by 5 different teams. That is just absurd. To compare Big 12 basketball to SEC football is a terrible analogy.
 
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So you thought the Big 12 was impressive against the lowly SEC? Cause I for sure didn't.

They went 7-3 without getting to play the worst teams in the SEC and the SEC is better than the B1G. I was hoping for 9-1 but like I said, we didn't get to play the bottom feeders so I'll take 7-3
 
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What??? The SEC has been totally dominate for at least 10 years now. No other conference can boast 11 national titles since 1998 by 5 different teams. That is just absurd. To compare Big 12 basketball to SEC football is a terrible analogy.

Hok fan vs. hok fan...only on Cyclonefanatic.com...I hope you realize how pathetic even posting on this site makes you both look.
 
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Hok fan vs. hok fan...only on Cyclonefanatic.com...I hope you realize how pathetic even posting on this site makes you both look.

Well that was a terrible analogy. The SEC is not overrated. They put by far more players into the NFL, and bring home the hardware almost every year. I get sick of all the SEC stuff too, but that conference is hands down better than any other conference.
 
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They went 7-3 without getting to play the worst teams in the SEC and the SEC is better than the B1G. I was hoping for 9-1 but like I said, we didn't get to play the bottom feeders so I'll take 7-3

Plus, those three losses did come on the road.
 
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Well that was a terrible analogy. The SEC is not overrated. They put by far more players into the NFL, and bring home the hardware almost every year. I get sick of all the SEC stuff too, but that conference is hands down better than any other conference.

Yeah, it kind of is. The SEC is great at the top, but its bottom feeders are just as bad as the bottom teams in many conferences. And let's be real. Most of the damage in terms of national titles has been handled by Saban (5 titles). Tennessee has been irrelevant for almost 15 years (since we're going back to their title in '98). Auburn is hit or miss; they haven't strung together multiple 9+ win seasons since 2004-2007. LSU is always very talented, but they haven't been untouchable. Florida has been mostly "meh" since Meyer skipped town. The Mississippi schools and Arkansas have been solid lately, but nowhere near elite. Georgia has finished unranked in one or both polls in four of the past seven seasons.

It's been a very tough conference, no doubt. But you'd think that the fifth-place team in the SEC East could win any other conference, the way the league was hyped up for all those years. It was nowhere near THAT good, which is the definition of being overrated. You can be overrated and still be the best.
 
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Yeah, it kind of is. The SEC is great at the top, but its bottom feeders are just as bad as the bottom teams in many conferences. And let's be real. Most of the damage in terms of national titles has been handled by Saban (5 titles). Tennessee has been irrelevant for almost 15 years (since we're going back to their title in '98). Auburn is hit or miss; they haven't strung together multiple 9+ win seasons since 2004-2007. LSU is always very talented, but they haven't been untouchable. Florida has been mostly "meh" since Meyer skipped town. The Mississippi schools and Arkansas have been solid lately, but nowhere near elite. Georgia has finished unranked in one or both polls in four of the past seven seasons.

It's been a very tough conference, no doubt. But you'd think that the fifth-place team in the SEC East could win any other conference, the way the league was hyped up for all those years. It was nowhere near THAT good, which is the definition of being overrated. You can be overrated and still be the best.

But to compare the SEC in Football to the Big 12 in Basketball is laughable at best. The SEC has the hardware in football, whereas the Big 12 in basketball struggles to get teams past the first weekend.
 
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Yeah, it kind of is. The SEC is great at the top, but its bottom feeders are just as bad as the bottom teams in many conferences. And let's be real. Most of the damage in terms of national titles has been handled by Saban (5 titles). Tennessee has been irrelevant for almost 15 years (since we're going back to their title in '98). Auburn is hit or miss; they haven't strung together multiple 9+ win seasons since 2004-2007. LSU is always very talented, but they haven't been untouchable. Florida has been mostly "meh" since Meyer skipped town. The Mississippi schools and Arkansas have been solid lately, but nowhere near elite. Georgia has finished unranked in one or both polls in four of the past seven seasons.

It's been a very tough conference, no doubt. But you'd think that the fifth-place team in the SEC East could win any other conference, the way the league was hyped up for all those years. It was nowhere near THAT good, which is the definition of being overrated. You can be overrated and still be the best.

Lets give Tennessee SOME credit. They haven't been completely irrelevant.

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Lets give Tennessee SOME credit. They haven't been completely irrelevant.

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Ugh...one of the ugliest plays I've ever seen on the football field. This game and the Rose Bowl will be all time stinkers for sure. Rose bowl even more so cause of the stage it was on.
 
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So KenPom now has Iowa ranked #1? WTF? They weren't supposed to do jack this year. Guess Mad Fran can actually coach.
 
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But to compare the SEC in Football to the Big 12 in Basketball is laughable at best. The SEC has the hardware in football, whereas the Big 12 in basketball struggles to get teams past the first weekend.

The point still stands. One can be the best and still be overrated. Whether the Big 12 is the basketball version of SEC football in terms of hardware is irrelevant. It can be the best conference and still be overrated.
 
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So KenPom now has Iowa ranked #1? WTF? They weren't supposed to do jack this year. Guess Mad Fran can actually coach.

As cytwins pointed out earlier, kenpom isn't a ranking. It's a predictive system. So... What does #1 in kenpom mean, twinsy?
 
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