Apples to oranges. Iowa State plays a real schedule and beats good opponents, Iowa is just ranked because they are undefeated. Same with Toledo going into last night and Toledo is not one of the best 25 teams in the country
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Apples to oranges. Iowa State plays a real schedule and beats good opponents, Iowa is just ranked because they are undefeated. Same with Toledo going into last night and Toledo is not one of the best 25 teams in the country
Their schedule so far has been better than most top teams. The remaining schedule is the part that's weak. Part of that is Nebraska's fault. Also most people thought Minnesota was going to be good as well.
I thought Jon Miller didn't care?
http://hawkeyenation.com/2015/college-football-for-dummies
Here are some highlights showcasing how little Jon Miller cares.
Tell us again how little you care.
http://hawkeyenation.com/2015/college-football-for-dummies
Here are some highlights showcasing how little Jon Miller cares.
Tell us again how little you care.
So out gaining Iowa State 230-60 in the 2nd half, and out scoring them 21-0, is not impressive enough for you? Sounds pretty dominant to me.
Kinda wish I could complain bout being ranked "only" #9. I didn't listen to Miller's thing, but I think the problem a lot of fans have -- not just Hawk fans but those around the nation -- is that Alabama is ranked in the top 4 with a loss against an Ole Miss team that has two losses.
Hawk fans have no right to be mad Alabama is ahead of them. All they've done this year is touted their Sagarin SOS saying it's not that bad and Alabama is #1 in the Sagarin Rankings
I haven't heard it (and won't listen) but he and other Iowa fans love to tout the wins against Wisconsin and Pitt as great wins. They are good wins but neither of those teams have beaten a team over .500 (FBS only). Northwestern is the ONLY team that Iowa has beaten that has defeated a team with a winning record (they have 2).
Iowa has done everything they can and they cannot control their schedule but to dig your heals in and say dispute how bad the schedule is is silly.
I don't know why they are so butthurt about Stanford. Miller did a little vitriolic rant about Stanford who they are ahead of I just don't know what Miller wants. He just doesn't care enough I guess.
So what? The question was not is it fair or not fair it's are they good or not. Baylor and TCU have many pieces back from a good team and get some benefit of the doubt until then. Iowa's win vs. NW is the only evidence they are better than a top 30 team. They may be but have yet to prove it. I think they are probably in the 20-30 range similar to Wisconsin. Most of my Hawk friends agree with that assessment too and if asked preseason would take that in a heartbeat.
Ferentz teams usually get better as the season goes on. If they roll through the next 4 games I will be convinced they did get better and NW wasn't a fluke and a deserving 10-20 team. If they beat OSU I will be convinced they are a legit top 10 team that deserves (whether lucky or not) a playoff spot as an undefeated power 5. They win those two games and I will be a believer they are the best team in the country. So I don't get why Iowa fans are so defensive. If they are as good as people think they are, they will get the chance to prove it. Who cares if I am not a believer yet or not. Why do they care what others opinion is? That is the laughable part of this thread title and the miller piece as it is clear they do care.
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I agree with everything you've said here except this. We haven't beaten anyone I would consider good. I'll take a win over Texas any day, any year, any time, but Texas isnt Texas this year.
He was talking about ISU basketball and most Hawk fans would consider ISU BB a top tier team but ISU fans won't consider Iowa football a top tier team
Ahh, I see now.
I don't consider Iowa a top-tier footall program...yet. They've been mediocre over the previous three seasons. This season they've won a lot of games, but Ill wait to see if they do it for a few seasons in a row to consider them top-tier. I have seen four of their games and they dont look all that much different than last year, except they have a much more competent qb and a weak schedule.
I find it easier to just accept that this is the greatest Iowa Hawkeyes team of all time. I don't know if Iowa has ever finished 12-0, certainly not in the last 40 years. But why not, I'd take this roster up against any Iowa team of the past.
Think about how hard it is for a team to finish undefeated. Yet, Iowa is going to make this look easy. They must be the best team Iowa has ever trotted out.
If I were an Iowa fan I'd demand respect for surviving the gauntlet of the big ten west. Going up against the likes of Illinois, Indiana, Maryland, Purdue, Minnesota, and Nebraska, I would be demanding everyone's respect.
Think about how hard it is for a team to finish undefeated. Yet, Iowa is going to make this look easy. They must be the best team Iowa has ever trotted out.
If I were an Iowa fan I'd demand respect for surviving the gauntlet of the big ten west. Going up against the likes of Illinois, Indiana, Maryland, Purdue, Minnesota, and Nebraska, I would be demanding everyone's respect.
This is a message board. This is the home of the lunatic fringe. Even if you were right, the effects of "Iowa fans pulling for ISU" would never be seen on a message board.
Most? I think that's a big stretch. There are plenty of Iowa fans who would say they are rooting for ISU, but they are really just waiting for the other shoe to drop. Iowa fans had their ego stroked during their 15 year streak and they've not been able to handle admitting that ISU has been competitive with Iowa in football for the last 17 years. Every ISU win is considered a fluke or due to some extenuating circumstance.
I think most are pretty happy with a #9 ranking from the committee. I know I am after thinking Iowa would be struggling to make a bowl game this year.
Also, did you really like your own post?
That's a good point. Maybe I need to recalibrate what I think it means to be a bottom half of the Top 10 team.