Bowl or Bust

There it is! My two favorite things - selectively picking dates (4 years or 17 years? what kind of selection is that?) and telling us how awesome you'd be in the B10.

ISU fans telling us how many games they'd win in the B10 because you beat Iowa. This coming right after you said all you can do is go off of head-to-head games and you can't compare records as equal measures.

You'd fare so well in the B10 but can't beat UNI. By the way.. Iowa hasn't lost to UNI since 1898.

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You were the one who selectively chose the 2013 game first.
 
You were the one who selectively chose the 2013 game first.

That was your Clone friend who wanted to say you're undefeated the last 2 years vs B1G. What years would consist of the past two years?

This is not all too difficult of a post timeline to follow.

You would too if you're team hadn't won 6 games in two years..


We have a better win% against b1G teams than FCS teams during that stretch, heck we're undefeated against them, too bad we don't get to play more!



I can't hold your hand anymore Stormin. Go outside and play.
 
That was your Clone friend who wanted to say you're undefeated the last 2 years vs B1G. What years would consist of the past two years?

This is not all too difficult of a post timeline to follow.








I can't hold your hand anymore Stormin. Go outside and play.

Bottom line is that Hawkeye fans should not come on CF and try to claim they have a superior team. Both teams are not very good. And recent history suggests that Iowa State beats Iowa more often than not.
 
FIFY.

And, again, I merely corrected your Clone friend.

30,000+ posts and you don't understand how a timeline works. Seriously.

So you are on CF to tell everyone that the Hawkeyes suck as bad as the Cyclones at football?

Yes. Both teams are not very good.
 
So you are on CF to tell everyone that the Hawkeyes suck as bad as the Cyclones at football?

Yes. Both teams are not very good.

Please quote where I said those words.

If you're going fishing, bring plenty of bait and stay away from the deep end.
 
Please quote where I said those words.

If you're going fishing, bring plenty of bait and stay away from the deep end.

The Hawkeyes suck just as much as the Cyclones. So what are you arguing about?

If you are trying to claim they don't..........LOL.
 
Can't follow timelines, can't stick to a topic, can't support your statements.

Really, you subjected people to 30,000 of this? Poor Clones.
 
Ah, the old Iowa vs. Iowa State debate rearing its head.

In short, it goes to show how far both programs and (portions of them) fanbases have not come along.
 
Bottom line is that Hawkeye fans should not come on CF and try to claim they have a superior team. Both teams are not very good. And recent history suggests that Iowa State beats Iowa more often than not.

Bingo. Both teams are not very good at all, but Iowa has benefited from having an awful schedule the last few years, and this year as well by the way. I would say over the last decade or so at least, it's been anyone's ballgame.... basically a toss up between Iowa and ISU. However, I think ISU has come out on top more often recently, but it doesn't mean much.
 
Bingo. Both teams are not very good at all, but Iowa has benefited from having an awful schedule the last few years, and this year as well by the way. I would say over the last decade or so at least, it's been anyone's ballgame.... basically a toss up between Iowa and ISU. However, I think ISU has come out on top more often recently, but it doesn't mean much.

As bad as we have been the last 2 years, it is comical that we have beaten the vaunted Hawkeyes 3 of the last 4 years.

Looking forward to another win this year.
 
The fact is that week in and week out, Iowa State fans see their football team get beaten by teams with far superior talent to ourselves, and to neighboring Big Ten teams. This occurs because Big 12 has a Top 3 recruiting state in its footprint, so the talent level is simply higher in the Big 12 than the Big Ten. They look east and see the Big Ten not having any states comparable to Texas, and note how much slower and less athletic teams like Minnesota, Iowa, Nebraska and Illinois are compared to all the teams ISU faces, minus Kansas. The proof is Nebraska stagnating in the Big Ten, after losing the Texas recruiting footprint.

At the end of the day though, Iowa State needs to embrace being in a better recruiting footprint than neighboring Big Ten teams, and rise to the occasion.


How do you explain the NFL draft if you seriously believe the B12 is that much more talented than the B10?
 
How do you explain the NFL draft if you seriously believe the B12 is that much more talented than the B10?

We actually had the same number of players drafted per team this past year. 2.5 players on average per team were drafted in the Big Ten and Big 12.
 
Perky, this really isn't that complicated.

ISU struggles against...well, almost everyone, but particularly against other Big 12 teams. This is because the caliber of recruiting/performance across the conference is so high...due in great part to having access to Texas recruiting. Nonetheless, of late, we have beaten Iowa on a very consistent basis...call it 3 of 4, or 10 of 17 if you'd rather...but either way we beat you regularly, and often in your own house.

Still, Iowa manages to win 6-8 games a season...why is this? Well, its because you play one of the easiest schedules in college football in the weakest P5 league in the nation...you have Ohio State and the 13 chumps, 2-3 of which occasionally field a solid team (Wisconsin, MSU, NU). Making it worse, Iowa sometimes doesn't even play these marginally decent teams in the B1G. So you cannot compare records as equal measures...its the head on matchups that tell the tale.

So this all adds up to Iowa State struggling and having weak teams...losing even to some high end FCS schools like NDSU and UNI. Meanwhile, ISU's product on the field is STILL more talented and better than what Iowa is fielding...despite Iowa's ability to put up 6-7 wins against a schedule almost entirely made up of MAC level talent.

Put simply, ISU winning 5-6 games in a Big 12 schedule is equivalent to Iowa winning 9-10 in the B1G. Both teams have stunk these past few years, so in this case ISU's 2-3 wins are equivalent to Iowa's 5-7 wins...this is proven, quite plainly, by ISU's consistent ability to SPANK Iowa in head-to-head matchups.

You were doing so well until this last line. C'mon man. Seriously. You beat us last year by 3 after getting a second shot on a FG because our coach is a complete stooge in the heat of the moment. The time before that you won 9-6, the time before that 44-41, the time before that 15-13. In ISU's 10 wins since ending the 15-year drought they've won by more than 7 points three times. Every other win has been by a TD or less.

Hey, congrats on your team's ability to now win in this series at a regular clip, and I agree with some of your other points. But be real. "SPANK"? It does nothing for your credibility when you bring that kind of delusion into an otherwise sensible point.
 
We actually had the same number of players drafted per team this past year. 2.5 players on average per team were drafted in the Big Ten and Big 12.

And the year before last the B1G had more players drafted per team, and the year before that the Big 12 had more drafted per team. To say the Big 12 has far superior talent than the B1G makes no sense and isn't backed up by the facts. Before conference expansion hit in 2012 the B1G far outpaced the Big 12 in players drafted, and that was with one fewer team in the B1G. The conferences have very equal talent, it's a fantasy to say one has far superior talent to the other. And if you do, would love to hear the rationale/proof points beyond "our recruits are from Texas."
 
And the year before last the B1G had more players drafted per team, and the year before that the Big 12 had more drafted per team. To say the Big 12 has far superior talent than the B1G makes no sense and isn't backed up by the facts. Before conference expansion hit in 2012 the B1G far outpaced the Big 12 in players drafted, and that was with one fewer team in the B1G. The conferences have very equal talent, it's a fantasy to say one has far superior talent to the other. And if you do, would love to hear the rationale/proof points beyond "our recruits are from Texas."

I just posted that fact.......Here is another fact. About 30% of NFL players were undrafted.
 

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