Joe Wieskamp 2018

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But, they are improving....

They are improving at a slow and steady pace where the year 5 peak was similar to Fred's year two. If they improve in year 6 and 7 I'll be truely impressed...I'm not sure a year 8 is in the cards if the next two aren't great.
 
Yeah, it's really tough being ranked for the past 700+ days consecutively in college basketball, going to the NCAA 4 straight, winning two B12 tourney's in a row, going to the sweet 16, getting top 5 and top 10 predections for '15/'16. If only ISU could lose a play-in-game, go 1-4 against Iowa, never challenge for our conference in 30 years, and beat Davidson as our crowning achievement we'd be happy and stress free, that's the promise land I've been told by your type.


yes all that happened in the past and Ames golden boy still used ISU as a stepping stone. So even if your new head coach recruits and does well he's just going leave anyway.
 
yes all that happened in the past and Ames golden boy still used ISU as a stepping stone. So even if your new head coach recruits and does well he's just going leave anyway.

I'm crossing my fingers that with Prohm we finish middle of the pack in conference and go to the tournament in his fifth year. If he accomplishes that then I will praise him on the progress he has made. Hopefully with little success he'll stay.
 
yes all that happened in the past and Ames golden boy still used ISU as a stepping stone. So even if your new head coach recruits and does well he's just going leave anyway.

Talk about idiots. What coach in the country, who has success is not a possibility to leave their present school? Outside of coach K, Calipari, and Self I can't think of many, and even they are sometimes rumored to be on the short list for NBA teams. You think if Fran somehow magically had the success that Fred had, and was offered an NBA job ( or several) he wouldn't leave Iowa City? If you truly think that , then it is obvious who one of the idiots in this thread really is.
 
Funny stuff, Franny to the Bulls ISU would be depressed. Hoiberg to the Bulls Hok fans rejoice.
 
yes all that happened in the past and Ames golden boy still used ISU as a stepping stone. So even if your new head coach recruits and does well he's just going leave anyway.

yet you obsess rationalizing nonsense about a program that clearly can't hang with ISU. What's that say about you?
 
You realize in last years Iowa/ISU game that ISU had no transfers starting and only one that played a single minute. Iowa on the other hand, their best player was a transfer. I guess you guys are looking for a new pitch as well.




He wasn't good at all in that game, a complete non-factor.
 
Talk about idiots. What coach in the country, who has success is not a possibility to leave their present school? Outside of coach K, Calipari, and Self I can't think of many, and even they are sometimes rumored to be on the short list for NBA teams. You think if Fran somehow magically had the success that Fred had, and was offered an NBA job ( or several) he wouldn't leave Iowa City? If you truly think that , then it is obvious who one of the idiots in this thread really is.

But it continually happens to ISU, even when they're just 'ok' coaches like Chizik, they all can't wait to get out. There was a time when Ferentz was just as sought after as Fred for NFL teams and Iowa anted up. ISU doesn't have the budget to keep a really good coach and Iowa has a richer history in football/basketball and isn't looked upon as the 'stepping stone' that ISU is.
 
But it continually happens to ISU, even when they're just 'ok' coaches like Chizik, they all can't wait to get out. There was a time when Ferentz was just as sought after as Fred for NFL teams and Iowa anted up. ISU doesn't have the budget to keep a really good coach and Iowa has a richer history in football/basketball and isn't looked upon as the 'stepping stone' that ISU is.

This guy is a genius.
 
Way to side step because there's really no disputing what I said. All that is fact.

You're a little slow if you think Iowa State wouldn't have paid Hoiberg. Although he is making a lot of money with the Bulls, it wasn't about money, and more about being in the NBA.
 
You're a little slow if you think Iowa State wouldn't have paid Hoiberg. Although he is making a lot of money with the Bulls, it wasn't about money, and more about being in the NBA.

I guess I'll choose to believe your AD Pollard who said Hoibergs salary was as high as they could afford.
 
I guess I'll choose to believe your AD Pollard who said Hoibergs salary was as high as they could afford.

Link? I don't remember him saying anything like that?

I remember him saying that money was not an issue for Fred a lot of times.
 
You probably need to read a little more, but stick with what fits your narrative.

I read where Pollard said they basically couldn't afford to pay Hoiberg more. I agree he didn't leave necessarily because of money but that doesn't change the point that ISU can't afford to retain a coach. Therefore in basketball or football if a coach has success in Ames, he'll be gone soon.
 
I read where Pollard said they basically couldn't afford to pay Hoiberg more. I agree he didn't leave necessarily because of money but that doesn't change the point that ISU can't afford to retain a coach. Therefore in basketball or football if a coach has success in Ames, he'll be gone soon.

Quit making stuff up.
 
I read where Pollard said they basically couldn't afford to pay Hoiberg more. I agree he didn't leave necessarily because of money but that doesn't change the point that ISU can't afford to retain a coach. Therefore in basketball or football if a coach has success in Ames, he'll be gone soon.

Again, read a little more about what Fred and Jamie said. Iowa State could have paid Fred more money, but he didn't let it get to that point. It was about going to the NBA.
 
I read where Pollard said they basically couldn't afford to pay Hoiberg more. I agree he didn't leave necessarily because of money but that doesn't change the point that ISU can't afford to retain a coach. Therefore in basketball or football if a coach has success in Ames, he'll be gone soon.

LOL.....man you are delusional. Money was not the reason that Fred left for the NBA. Even if ISU could have afforded to pay him 5 million a year (which would have been insane), it very likely would not have kept him in Ames, so it really is a moot point.

You bring up Free Rents and say how Iowa paid him....yeah they did.....and look how that brilliant move has paid off. He now makes everyone's list as one of the most over-paid coaches in all of college sports, considering the results. But go ahead, keep bragging about the fact that Iowa was able to over-pay a mediocre coach and retain him. It makes you look really, really smart. What a tool.
 
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