*** COACHING SEARCH THREAD: Sunday, June 7 ***
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Is it just me or does it seem like we're having the same exact discussion as a week and a half ago? I stated then about our budget, what and who JP was targeting, and ultimately why Leath was going to be involved. I realize that was all back before any of it became more visible (especially the Leath part) but it shouldn't really warrant this type of confrontation amongst everybody.
Just take a deep breath and step away from the keyboard for a few minutes.
Just take a deep breath and step away from the keyboard for a few minutes.
Just trying to settle everybody down a bit and clarify what people were jumping to conclusions on - it's getting out of hand.
I've been doing this so frequently, lately, it feels like I'm participating in a lamaze class.
My ears just perked up when you said
"A good example is both of the surprise candidates would command 3+, with one being around 4."
Because to me that means a much bigger name than I was expecting.
The rest is just a stupid argument about if another coach would take a $1 million or $1.5 million raise to coach this ISU team.
You got lost once again, I see. Don't let it frustrate you, it was my mistake. I should have known you would not understand what that exemplifies, but rather it would distract your simple mind.
ISU has a team similar team next year as this past year- good, not great. Combined with such huge holes in future teams, that is not much of a draw as you give it credit for. Think in terms of programs, not teams.
You will get over it.
Well do you guys expect a buyout of Rhoads after next season, or would you rather ride that out and have a kick *** basketball coach? That's the **** that JP has to choose between.
I can only tell you that a coach that at some point in their career had no previous head coaching experience, has won the NCAA tournament every year of its existence.
If the "mystery candidates" would take between 1.25 and 1.75 million, then they are FAR from any kind of "splash" hire at all.
Does JP want ISU men's basketball to be a player on the national stage and fighting for Final Fours, or does he want to go back to us being a team that is happy making the NCAA Tourney once in a while? 1.25 million will likely get us someone that struggles to get us in the top half of the Big 12, and only making the tourney once in a while.
I'd rather have a kick *** basketball program than a middling at best football program. I should say, we are a lot closer to having a kick *** basketball program than football. Put the funds in that.
It makes no sense to me either. You just had Hoiberg on contract at over 2 mil and gets over 3 mil if he would go all 10 years. You have that budgeted so why can't we throw atleast 2 mil, if not more to get a good coach. We have a top 10 team coming back for cripe sakes. I agree with the statement that has already been stated, if that's all JP wants to pay then we might as well just hire TJ.
I really hope if Jamie hires a guy in the this 3.5-4 million range he offered Fred every bit of that and more in private to stay.
No thats the **** JP put himself in.
but to add to that. Isu received $3mil more this year than last year in big 12 revenue that was prob unexpected plus the $500k from the Bulls and that's CPR entire buyout. Every year he's here it lessens by $750k so....Even if JP fired CPR after next year it wouldn't be $3.5 mil those things are always negotiated.
I'll go with the kick *** basketball coach. I don't think we'll ever be very good at FB (especially with the Big XII gauntlet schedule) - might as well shoot for the moon to get a top-tier basketball coach to build on our recent hardwood success! KU has a crappy FB team - but the national exposure for their basketball success more than makes up for that, imho.
I didn't say the surprise candidates would take that (they'd be twice the amnt), but that was the target amount JP initially set out shooting for (i.e. TJ).
I'm sorry Jeremy, but you bear a lot of the blame for this getting out of hand IMO. We've all kind of settled on the fact that TJ, Underwood, Prohm, Drew, etc were the level of candidates we're looking at.
But then all of the sudden you say that we're interviewing a few mystery candidates that would command between 3 and 4 million. That is what has sparked all this "jumping to conclusions" talk and "getting out of hand" talk that you speak of.
I don't blame you at all for passing along what info you have, that is great, but then don't expect posters on here not to speculate about those posts. I don't think that's being very reasonable.
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